Thread regarding Optum layoffs

@a2 sadly, the 30% is US, Ireland, and UK combined

I thought the goal was 80% offshore and the rest of tech would be contracted out to WiPro. I wonder if candyman has invested in WiPro. I thought Hemsley might want to change that course but it doesn’t seem that way. American company my a$$.

@sr you are d-mb, you think you write better code than AI?

@a8 For an offshore Indian to actually be better than a US engineer they'd have to do work without hopping into a call with a US engineer to discuss every line of code. Current iterations of offshore Indian still prove to be unable to accomplish this simple feat.

All these blowhards talking about programming jobs being performed by AI fail to mention the coding required to create these massive if, then, else statements that parade as AI and all the coders needed to check and correct the AI slop output.

They're liars and scam artists, all of them.

@aa Did I miss the AI project success that has perfectly replaced the billions of lines of COBOL that the world runs on?

SD thinks US healthcare providers on their knees with falling profit will bow to Infosys-style "low cost" but at the end of the day they'll sooner revolt against the failing for-profit payer system than lower quality that low. In bed with Palantir or not, Progressives and Populists in government will unite against the sh!t SD is selling.

70%? Old news! 80% of TDP'rs are to be in India this year

@ed WOW. Offshore was never to have seen or touched DSNP claims or records. Major violation. 🤔. Why am I not surprised. Heat is on to stop breaking federal contractor regulations

We were told that offshore employees can no longer handle DSNP data. Seems like new leadership is facing some pressure to adhere to the rules, whether from the government or post Change hack concerns.

5% onshore and 95% offshore is better. SAP's model proved it already. SAP's development teams are all located in India and China, management teams are in Germany and US.

@bp long career = sh-t. AI knows more than you.

@aa so the only developers left who actually learned how to code? LOL at least they has a long career. Good luck in 5 years when AI replaces you.

@a8 Agreed. I can say, 100% developers in Optum can't write better code than AI.

@a8 Especially those developers in their 50s or 60s, they can be easily replaced by AI.

@a2 AI now can take a requirement from business, polish it and get agreed by business then generate your code. Optum will get rid of most developers from US and move all dev work to India. There will be just product owners in US.

I feel some of the US developers actually aren't as good as offshore Indians. With AI/Copilot etc., Indians will replace US developers soon at a bargain.

More and more customers are putting NO OFFSHORE into their renewals after the data breaches.

This is the business being led by executives who have no clue what our capabilities and obligations are.

It's a mess. There's at least 50% of those Indian resources who aren't doing any work at all. We have some really awesome offshore resources, but we should really keep leadership roles in the US. That's causing huge cracks because Indian resources can't meet with the business to get clear requirements, so big disconnect in what is needed vs. what is being built. Lots of rework because of this which isn't saving any money. I would argue that one very good developer/engineer/PO with AI is working 10-20 offshore resources. We are quickly learning Indian resources are just order takers. They don't know how to innovate because THEY DONT EVEN UNDERSTAND OUR BUSINESS MODEL. How long until we realize the emperor has no clothes?