Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

Former mgr here: You can choose 13 weeks, 4 weeks, or last week. Each business unit has a policy of whether they choose one of those or don't list it at all. Ask your mgr.

@d5 Speaking of someone talking as the authority... As a manager, we go off the average. There is nothing communicated about 3 days per week minimum. Sure, you can see weeks that someone goes in less, but we go off the average for anyone that gets flagged.

Same for the person earlier claiming if you take 5 days of PTO, 2 of those days don't count in the average. Yes, they do.

How are there so many people answering in the authority but clearly hey have never even seen the dashboard presented to managers?

The enterprise policy is no longer an “average” of 3x a week. It is 3 days a week, end of story. Any variation blatantly shows on the dash and has to be explained. Default view is the last 13 weeks but 4 weeks is available. Shows total number of onsite visits, counts of network only visits, “excused absences”(PTO, sick, etc), % of visits to assigned work address, on and on. Weekly aggregates across the top with 2 or less site visits stand out boldly highlighted in a different color. The main body is broken down sun-sat so a manager can quickly reference trends of days and if you’re going in on days you wouldn’t normally work (sat swipes).

Now if a specific lob, group or manager chooses not to follow the enterprise mandate it’s what it is. But the above is company policy and not tower/lob specific.

Are you a mo--n ?

The updated requirement in my area is 3x per week, minimum 7.5 hours logged in on the office network.

When I came back from leave I got no benefit of banked days. I left early a day last week and it didn’t count towards my 3x in office so I had to come into the office an extra day. My leadership is micromanaging the in-office compliance.

My manager tracks weekly. I got flagged once because I thought I put PTO for that day when I actually scheduled it for a different week.

What someone said about 4 weeks and 13 weeks is also what I’ve heard. The rolling 4 weeks is monitored to keep it from becoming a problem, the rolling 13 weeks is actually what policy is based on and the average that could result in bad performance if it dips below 13 weeks to often. People who have been corrected based on the 4 week one likely just have managers who like to micromanage.

No one actually cares. Haven't gone in 3 days a week, ever. Oh and when I go in I fill my water and leave, the coffee is terrible.

There are 2 reports managers get. 4 week and 13 week rolling averages. The 4 week identifies the problem people not adhering & discussion had & the 13 week can be used for performance evaluation if 4 week is not improved. managers are on the report also.

@aa so if I go in 1 day this week… have two weeks off… then the next week that I’m back only go in once will that be fine or no? If it’s not then I don’t get how you can make up sick days

It’s a rolling 13 week average. So for those two weeks it’s like you were in 5 days each. All it gives you really is a few weeks buffer where you could do 2 days etc. but after it rolls off your average drops if you don’t keep doing 3 days a week bc the weeks after you’ll show up as only being in 2 days.

Word is they’re going to scrutinize it a lot more now if you drop below 3 day average.

Hours on office are going to be scrutinized as well.

1. The problem as illustrated below is that you have to consistently maintain above 3.0 day average for the rolling 13 week period. So unless you already have a “buffer” on your rolling 13 week average, you cannot simply make it up the next week. Alternatively, if you do have a “buffer” already built into your average, you will still need to come in one extra day in a future week to account for the earlier buffer rolling out of your 13 week average to stay above 3.0. This is all without being given your average each week, you’re suppose to figure it out on your own until you’re notified that you’re out of compliance. This is why I’ve given up on thinking in terms of the thirteen week average and just use PTO if I’m not going to be able to make it in 3 days on any given week.
2. PTO only counts towards the week it is used. So if you’re on PTO 5 days one week, the other two days do not count toward your rolling average the following week(s)

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It’s not 13 weeks. Ask me how I found out. I laid out the scenario before you post that bit me.

You show up on a report over rolling 4 weeks if you don’t maintain an average of 3 times a week and it’s stupid easy to get hit twice for one week if you don’t take the rolling 4 weeks into account.

@OP yeah because they don’t want you to know but it’s a rolling 13 weeks; look back it is the days of average for the those 13 weeks, so you would be fine to count those extra days in office.

Ask your manager. The only thing I have ever seen is it is calculated over a 4 week period where you must maintain 3x a week average in office. But that 4 week period is rolling.

Let’s create a scenario on a Monday you decide that two weeks from now you will not go in that week and you’ll adjust your days accordingly.

To diagram this better I will list out 5 weeks. The first report will be of weeks 1-4 and the second report will be weeks 2-5. Week 0 will be the previous reporting window, prior to your decision.

Weeks:
0 - 3x
1 - 4x
2 - 4x
3 - 0
4 - 4x
5 - 3x

Say it is Monday on week 1. You plan on not going into office on week 3. So you decide in week 1, week 2, week 4, you will pick up an extra day in office. But while you didn’t go in on week 3, you forgot to factor in how many days you went in on week 0, before you came up with your plan.

Week 0-week 3 you only have 11 days in office. You aren’t compliant. But you aren’t notified of this immediately. Week 4 you go in 4 days thinking you are all good, and week 5 you go in 3 days.

BUT now you are not compliant TWICE. Week 0 - week 3 AND week 2 - week 5 are two rolling periods you don’t meet the minimum average of 3 days a weeks.

For skipping that one week you now have two violations of the RTO policy on your employee record.