Thread regarding IBM layoffs

Buckle up

https://x.com/SouthAsiaIndex/status/1963927195715547432

"Just IN: President Trump considering a proposal to block US IT companies from outsourcing their work to Indian companies — a move that could wreck Indian IT sector & cost millions of jobs."


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Post ID: @OP+1k4dtegja

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just cancel all visas, tax the heck out of the new ones and start over. Sc--w'm all. I've had it with the stealing, backstabbing, BS for the 1%.

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Post ID: @13j+1k4dtegja

"Countries must pay for the privilege of providing services remotely to the US the same way as goods"

Sounds like a Digital Services Tax? I thought Trump hates those .. but of course just when it is applied in the "wrong" direction?

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Post ID: @jf+1k4dtegja

India tech centers are a Potemkin Village. Drive 1 mile away from that shiny new office building campus and you'll see people dropping their pants to take a dump in the middle of the road.

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Post ID: @jd+1k4dtegja

@eq you’ve been perfectly red-pilled.

Your masters will be proud.

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Post ID: @hv+1k4dtegja

@eq
yes, and under the cover of some ridiculous excuses like the ones you just provided, those H1B visa holders su-k out US taxpayer money from the US. That needs to stop - H1B visa holders particularly from the IT industry in India need to be shown the door. We have enough unemployed Americans who have IT skills..

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Post ID: @f3+1k4dtegja

@dg

They cannot create jobs in India because they are such a corrupt nation, so they have found McKinsey and IBM to make excuses for the Indians to take over US jobs. They thrive through corruption.

You cannot trust them in a million years even with their pious looks - just look at Alvind and Modi as typical examples of leaders who speak with forked tongues.

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Post ID: @e5+1k4dtegja

@ae
create your own company if you are that good
then you will make more money and have more say
and do it with India money
the US is broke, we shouldn't be printing anymore money

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Post ID: @bj+1k4dtegja

@a9 , @A8

Thank you for sharing - the number ranges vary quite widely depending on which media sites you go to. At this point, it's hard to get anything but an approximation.

But I hear you about the best people getting locked out of opportunity through no fault of their own - that always happens, as it's difficult to sort the wheat from the chaff. And the best ones get left behind for all the wrong reasons.

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Post ID: @ab+1k4dtegja

@a7

See this: https://www.thelayoff.com/post/@jx+1k3c1bhhm

11 days ago:

"If I may... (and it's ok to disagree, of course)

Brilliant people have always been able to come, beginning with Albert Einstein and so many wonderful entrepreneurs that helped build America.

The issue is that for the past few years (and particularly the past 4) some bad apples were able to come (via open borders) and a worker visa systems that in the past decade or so was played by IT sweatshops from a particular country (which is affecting the well-being of an entire tech industry, healthcare industry, etc... of course, not the only element, but an important one). Nobody is able to come outside of mostly India and a bit of China anymore, and many brilliant folks from outside those countries are being left behind.

The idea is NOT to prevent 'anyone' from coming, but to be selective and careful about who is coming for the benefit of all of our society, all of us, we the American people.

That's all."

WHAT DO I MEAN? The issue is not the instrument, but how it was corrupted. So, what meant to be used in one manner, it ended up being hijacked by all these Indian companies (with help from the very US-based top companies).

But we don't want to prevent brilliant good people from coming over, sweatshop IT yes.

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Post ID: @a9+1k4dtegja

@a7

Yeah, we shared stats here a few times.

India: 73% to 75% (trend has persisted for over a decade).
China: 12%.
Other countries: Canada, South Korea, and the Philippines.

American companies with most H1B employees:

https://indianexpress.com/article/trending/top-10-listing/top-10-american-companies-sponsoring-the-most-h-1b-visas-9768780/

For the H-1B visa approvals finalized in 2024, the Indian IT companies that secured the most visas were Infosys, Tata Consultancy Services (TCS), Cognizant, HCL America, Wipro.

As you suggested, no doctors, no nurses, cheap IT people.

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Post ID: @a8+1k4dtegja

@a2

MAYBE, AK is peeing in his pants together with his team of escorts, because his "moving everything to India to make the margins and numbers look good strategy" will be soon having to face a bump on the road?

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Post ID: @a6+1k4dtegja

@OP

Apologies in advance for my previous very long post, but wanted to summarize for everyone the things that I have read thus far.

Based on the jobs report from today, I'm not surprised.

I wrote HERE this back in July 2025:

https://www.thelayoff.com/post/@p9+1k11w8sdj

I quote here the meaningful part:

"Unemployment rate is political (= has political implications, that is), so when unemployment numbers will start to go up and show in the stats meaningfully or substantially, the impact of all of this will then be different.

Meaning, tech workers had (historically, of course this may change) relatively high salaries, so tech jobs get reduced and salaries go down (the folks that they are hiring are not being offered "what used to be"), unemployment goes up, overall consumer consumption is also felt, economy slows down, growth goes down (perhaps a recession?)"

So, folks, it's happening, macro unemployment figures tell us that the "offshoring and near shoring party went way too far" and is no longer a joke.

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Post ID: @a5+1k4dtegja

@OP

The Trump administration previously made efforts to tighten the H1B visa regime, significantly impacting Indian tech workers who form the bulk of that visa category. However, the new front being opened here goes beyond immigration and touches the core of India’s IT exports, a multi-billion dollar industry that services Fortune 500 companies across sectors like banking, healthcare, retail and tech.

Why this matters
India is not just a labour exporter through H1B visas. It is a global hub for IT services and remote outsourcing. Indian firms like TCS, Infosys, Wipro and hundreds of smaller players provide mission-critical IT, cloud, data management and cybersecurity services to US companies. In fact, the US is India's largest market for IT and business process services, and the rise of Global Capability Centres (GCCs), set up by American multinationals in India, is proof ..

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/foreign-trade/trumps-advisor-navarro-needles-india-once-again/articleshow/123722111.cms?from=mdr

Tariffs on outsourcing? Trump advisor Navarro puts issue into focus as US tech workers cheer

Donald Trump's advisor and tariff expert, Peter Navarro recently reposted a demand that tariffs should apply to foreign remote workers and outsourcing.

The post, originally made on September 1 by right-wing activist and former US Navy intelligence officer Jack Posobiec, argued that foreign remote workers and outsourcing should be subject to tariffs: “Countries must pay for the privilege of providing services remotely to the US the same way as goods. Apply across industries, leveled as necessary per country,” he wrote.

This comes amid Trump’s sweeping tariff measures, with India and Brazil facing some of the steepest rates, as high as 50 percent. Statista analysis showed that the US is a major player in the IT outsourcing market, with the highest revenue being generated there.
While it remains unclear whether services will actually enter the tariff crosshairs, many online are demanding just that. Tech workers, in particular, have cheered the notion that tariffs might target the Indian IT sector, while also calling for incentives to bolster US labor.

Many demand tariff outsourcing
One person, flagging US data that for the first time there are more unemployed Americans than job postings, said “We need to stop these Visa worker programs for the first time in forever there are more people seeking jobs than there are jobs available. We need to prioritize Americans for these positions. We need to tariff outsourcing to other countries. Let’s take America back.”

More here: https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/no-skin-contact-with-males-afghan-women-left-under-earthquake-rubble-courtesy-gender-rules-101757063672397.html

Also, this tweet: https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1964008483973460169

TRUMP: WE WILL CRUSH INDIA TECH WORK

Trump is reportedly considering banning American tech companies from outsourcing their work to India, and Silicon Valley is sweating bullets.

Here’s why this is huge: For decades, U.S. companies have sent IT work overseas because it’s cheaper.

In fact, by 2023, they spent a jaw-dropping $132B on outsourcing, with nearly 4 out of 10 tech jobs shipped abroad.

Most of that work went to India, which has built a $62B industry off American companies alone.

But Trump’s message is simple: if U.S. firms stop sending jobs to India, American workers win.

Supporters say it could bring back around 300,000 jobs a year that have been leaving the country.

Critics warn it could spark trade tensions with India, which has dominated outsourcing for decades thanks to lower costs.

This wouldn’t be Trump’s first move.

Back in his first term, he introduced rules to curb outsourcing, too, and now he’s hinting at doubling down.

If the ban actually happens, it could be one of the biggest shake-ups in tech and trade in years, hitting India’s economy hard and forcing U.S. companies to either hire at home or pay the price.

This is from July 2025:

‘America first’: Trump targets Google, Microsoft for outsourcing Indian hires

President Donald Trump on Wednesday slammed big American tech firms for shifting manufacturing to China and hiring workers from India while speaking at the AI Summit in Washington D.C.

“Many of our largest tech companies have reaped the blessings of American freedom while building their factories in China, hiring workers in India and slashing profits in Ireland, you know that,” Trump said. He stated such practice will not be tolerated, saying, “All the while dismissing and even censoring their fellow citizens right here at home. Under President Trump, those days are over.”

His comments came as he signed off on three executive orders focused on strengthening the U.S. artificial intelligence sector. One of them is a broad White House strategy called the America’s AI Action Plan that lays out steps to keep the U.S. ahead in the global AI race.

Trump called on homegrown tech giants like Google and Microsoft to take a more patriotic route in how they run their businesses, pushing for what he described as an “America First” approach that better serves national priorities. “We need U.S. technology companies to be all in for America. We want you to put America first....

https://americanbazaaronline.com/2025/07/25/america-first-trump-targets-google-microsoft-for-outsourcing-indian-hires-

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Post ID: @a4+1k4dtegja

Maybe IBM'll need to move HQ to India and then tell that co-k su-ka RT he needs to be in his new office 5 days a week.

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