Anyone got merit this year? I got 7%, maybe I am at lower end.
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@hj cheap seat wisdom
@he - You are asking how clowns run a circus. From what I saw, they run it using crazy skits and ad hoc magic tricks.
But you didn’t see what you saw. You didn’t.
Received ~10% for this past year. Am still a relatively new dev with <5 YoE and my manager went to bat for me so take take that with a grain of salt.
On another note, anyone have guesses why the compensation cycle is always changing? I remember my first year we received notice in March, then bumps took effect April 1st. Last year they pushed it back a month, now this year they're separating the promotions from the raises/bonuses. Not to mention how secretive they keep the whole process from both workers and managers :(
"Were the distinguished you worked with worthy of the step up?
In my experience they do tend to be next level but I’ve only dealt with probably 3 enough to really know."
That was my experience as well. Also a small sample size for my direct knowledge, but they were truly next level. AFAIK, SAS did a good job of giving that title only to the truly distinguished.
8% this year (which was a shock), but zero last year, and I'm a principal old fa-t.
3%.
@dy Were the distinguished you worked with worthy of the step up?
In my experience they do tend to be next level but I’ve only dealt with probably 3 enough to really know.
@da “ So an observation that fewer people over 40 were given big pay bumps/bonuses is not caused by age - it is an outcome of position that comes with age.”
But the observation wasn’t actually based on real data other than people the poster talked to about raises. That must be an insanely low number of data points. So it isn’t an caused by age or position. It is just bad conjecture.
I've never heard of a "Senior Principal" title at SAS. I worked with a lot of Principal levels and a couple of "Distinguished", which was a level above Principal that only a very select few could attain. But that was in R&D and maybe other divisions had different levels?
You are more likely to get a raise/promotion if you are in a lower position (not principal or senior principal)) and in a lower band within that position.
You are less likely to get a raise/promotion if you are a principal or senior principal because the expectations are much higher from those already higher-paid positions.
Because it takes many years to get into a principle or senior principal position, those positions are occupied by older people. So an observation that fewer people over 40 were given big pay bumps/bonuses is not caused by age - it is an outcome of position that comes with age.
@d5 “ The majority of those who got raises are under 40.”
You are wrong.
Since when did SAS operate on merit? Nepotism and cronyism, sure. But merit? Never!
Most people I have spoken to are in the mid single digits for bonus and about half also got a raise. I know only 1 person over age 40 who got a raise. The majority of those who got raises are under 40.
@cz last year I was zero, this year I was 2%. Either I'm right in the middle of the pay band, or I'm on the cull list.
Zero!
6%
1.x%
I got 4%
@a7 I am the op. Yes.
Do you mean you think you were low in your pay band?
I must be living in a different universe. 7% sounds really robust
Why would 7% be the low end?