Thread regarding Optum layoffs

AI Dojo

Is this a weedout course for employees? I've just completed it and tbh, it's not something everyone could complete. It requires critical thinking, debugging and prompt engineering to complete.

What do you think will happen to those who don't get a good grade on theirs?


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So what departments are mandated to complete the course? I know for a fact it's required in Optum Tech, but I don't believe for all of Optum Insight. What about the UHC side, Optum Health, Optum RX, etc?

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Post ID: @r0+1kc37smg0

@gd this is so true

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Post ID: @h5+1kc37smg0

AI Dojo is another shiny SD cat toy he thinks it's the greatest ever. SD is filling the ranks from OT and they see zero value in non-Tech. It makes sense that "everyone" do it. As a curriculum it hasn't been compared to any alternatives.

NOTHING going thru SD's head is compared to ANYTHING. It's literally what he says goes and no one is questioning. Our business is in a dangerous place.

There's a pervasive Indian culture creeping out of Indian nationals in country and in the USA into non-Indians. It focuses on rote memorization not understanding and creativity and a strong sense of obedience to superiors like the caste system.

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Post ID: @gd+1kc37smg0

The premise that everyone from developers to documentation specialists will significantly benefit from the same 30-40 hours of training that leads to being able to piece together a ReAct Agent is not at all unlike the assumption that everyone within 30 minutes of a Twin Cities UHG/Optum office will automatically see a considerable boost in productivity just by being in the office 4 days a week, regardless of whether any of their colleagues are in the same office.

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Post ID: @e7+1kc37smg0

The AI Dodo training took around 35 hours, not including the capstone project (that made sense for developers ... but not for anyone else).

I'm sure completion/grades will be measured. Everything else is, from overtime to keystrokes to number of times one "badges in" at the nearly vacant office.

Even if all of those measures are up to snuff, the powers that be can always make up something.

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Post ID: @dx+1kc37smg0

There have been a grand total of zero projects using LLM API in production that I have witnessed since this craziness began. been here over a decade and intimately involved with all major prod systems at optum and uhg.

these executives are just lighting money on fire then laying people off to cover for it. its sickening

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Post ID: @cd+1kc37smg0

Can you guess how many AI Dojo graduates have produced any real outcomes? And how many have completed their capstone by outsourcing to someone else, to boost team stat to survive this f-k*ary. The company will have to eventually pay for all the cost, and wasted resources, time, and lost opportunity to address quality holes in the company. If you have options - do yourself a favor and find a new job. Know that most big corporations are doing the same sh-t though but it will take some time to realize.

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Post ID: @ca+1kc37smg0

My team is so understaffed I am struggling to find the time and motivation to complete it.

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Post ID: @c7+1kc37smg0

They can shove their AI Dojo up their candy a$$!

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Post ID: @c5+1kc37smg0

They made it clear in my org if you don’t complete it you will “not do well next year”. Meaning you will be on layoff lists. This is BS. It’s like telling everyone to learn a specific DB or you’re fired. Makes no sense.

It’s a bit ridiculous because AI Dojo is not hard for any normal engineer. It is basic API with basic RAG using libraries. Yeah the syntax might be new but it doesn’t require critical thinking.

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Post ID: @by+1kc37smg0

Yes, I think it is. For anyone wondering why they’re pushing it on roles that don’t code: I kinda think the goal is to create a justification for eliminating more US-based roles over time by making AI Dojo a position requirement. If there are any gaps after layoffs, they’ll just bring in more Indian-based hires (cheap labor who doesn’t complain!).

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Post ID: @bs+1kc37smg0

Leadership has bought into the AI hype hoping it will allow them to shed people.
AI is just another a tool...like a hammer.

"it is tempting, if the only tool you have is a hammer, to treat everything as if it were a nail." ~ Abraham Maslow

Management is handing everyone a hammer and telling them to go pound on everything the see.

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Post ID: @bp+1kc37smg0

I have completed AI certification through a university. I am python and databricks certified with a degree in stats. This training is full of holes, I have no idea what its purpose is. It includes NO topics on determining IF AI is the best solution nor any cost/drift calculations/methods.

I do know if it’s going to be used for weeding out talent that it will greatly miss the mark. People are passing around the solutions (they just change it up a bit) and are using copilot to pass the exams.

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Post ID: @ax+1kc37smg0

I genuinely think leadership is too fu--ing braindead to understand what the course teaches. I do think it's going to be used as an excuse for why they give people low ratings but both the person receiving the rating and the person giving it know it's complete bullsh-t.

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Post ID: @ae+1kc37smg0

@a5 It's pretty damn technical and the fact that they're pushing the course onto non-programming roles is a bit unfair. For example, some PM's who don't code for work are assigned the course.

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Post ID: @a6+1kc37smg0

what do you mean its not something everyone could complete???

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