What on earth is going on? It feels like the robots have taken over at our company and no humans are steering the ship. A very, very top inner circle executive passes and there is no public statement of condolence or sadness. The chief health officer has no LinkedIn profile. The leadership page is gone from the
company website. In the last two months the only press release has been to give the details of quarterly investor call. Stock drops every single day. A top HR exec is suing for age discrimination.Team meetings are being canceled. It feels like some sci-fi or dystopia movie. Is it just me or does it feel like things are getting even worse the last fee months?
40 replies (most recent on top)
I'm tuning in. I don't love it that our company only answers to the investors but at least it will be a chance to hear what they have to say, compared to Town Halls where all the questions are fake/planted.
Earnings call is tomorrow AM. Our chance to see what the leadership is saying, get to hear how they answer investor questions.
Wake up everyone! This is NOT the industry to be in anymore. Things will just get worse so get a game plan now! Hellevance does not and will NEVER care about its people!
@16h+1jhnafqyj Downtalking other associates" intelligence isn't an informative or insightful addition to the conversation. Dont worry though- you do have all the qualities necessary for leadership role if you dont already have one (making assumptions withou facts to back it up, condescending to your fellow associates) Assuming you statement is negative against the OP, why throw shade at hourly associates? No point to that.
This is the most tone deaf post. Tell me the OP is an hourly associate with no education.
Well they hired a doctor of pharmacy who worked for walgreens...the same day that the US government is suing walgreens for ignoring red flags and handing out opiods to addicts and fueling the fentanyl crisis.
Patients first, huh?
I never worry about getting RIF'd. That's what blunts are for.
Our remaining comms team members are too busy writing fake reviews (and responding to both fake and non-fake reviews) on Glass Door.
Very clear there are comms people in here that have drank the kool-aid and buying the company line. we know you are watching this. If there was nothing to hide, there would be SOME external communications. Clearly something shady going on.
@fh+1jhnafqyj Not just the insiders, the finance websites are showing investment firms selling off their holdings as well.
Even if the communications staff has been mostly laid off, by now they could have hired a Crisis Communications team....
It isn't just the unfortunate situation with BT....it is like this behemoth company has gone silent....just quietly sinking down lower and lower each day on so many dimensions. Google the company and the biggest piece of news you get is how many of the top executives are selling off their stock.
Our company is not responding in a normal way. Yes the family deserves privacy but that is a cseparate issue from whether the communications team is doing what would be expected in this unfortunate situation. Saying the family deserves privacy is true but also muddies the issue. The OP was talking about our company leadership and the communications not the family. Maybe the communications team was all laid off as well.
@fe+1jhnafqyj The communications team at ELV doesn't need to share personal details of what happened. No need to be ghoulish. However they do need to share information on who is in charge...that is an expectation, no requirement, for a publicly traded company. Media communications exist for a reason.
Did it ever occur to you his family might have asked for privacy and didn’t want anything to be public? Stop blaming everyone and have some empathy — be human and give them some time! Ge-z!
Still nothing being shared externally from ELV....there are certainly media inquiries by now...are they just responding "no comment" to every one of them? The Indianapolis Star, the financial media, the healthcare trade journals all must be asking ELV about the company leadership situation.....as in "Who is currently in charge of Legal, Government Affairs, Compliance, National Operations, Enterprise Performance, International Operations, Consumer Experience, Information, Procurement, Real Estate and Human Resources?" These departments were ALL under the individual who unfortunately passed earlier this week.
@bw+1jhnafqyj Given that they don't care about disrupting or even ruining thousands of peoples lives then why would they care about anonymous people in a tiny corner of the internet? I'm skeptical it was a Luigi situation.....however if it was just a sad-but-ordinary occurrence then the ELV response would be sad-but-ordinary. This total external facing silence is not normal.
It’s probably the Luigi situation; also they know about these forums and take no action
It’s not McKinsey any more. It’s Deloitte.
SLT should have removed their photos from the website a few years ago. Their performance is an embarrassment.
@b6+1jhnafqyj They are going to care, on paper he was in charge of literally half the company, and the investors' conference is on Jan 23! It seems like the leadership was caught unaware which doesn't align with a scenario of serious ongoing illness. I'm commenting here on leadership response not on the individual.
As the late, great John Lennon wrote, "Strange days indeed"
They don't care that he passed away in the least.
McKinsey is calling the shots. Our leadership reports to them. .
Normally that would be part of the communication (e.g. referencing a battle with cancer); And if the individual had been ill, there would have been some preparation (and succession planning) given that this was one person doing what had been 3-4 very large executive positions. Based on the actual communication (and huge lack of substantive communication) it seems like the other leaders were taken by surprise which shouldn't be the case if it was a complication of an ongoing known condition. I don't want to invent crazy stories I'm just saying that the silence is deafening.
Email from CEO went out 1/14 at 9:47 am EST. It wasn't a Luigi. Might have been a cancer relapse.
Please rest assured your director/manager know very little until the bombs are dropped on them. Very, very little.
@a9+1jhnafqyj That is how I feel as well. Not that there is a master plan but instead even the leadership has given up. They are just hoping to get the last bits of $$$ from this enormous Titanic of a sinking ship.
I don't think so and we shouldn't make light of a family's tragedy. But the reality is that when there is such a long period of silence people can't help but come up with speculations and the more time passes the weirder it gets.
AI / Spark is making most of the decisions now for the company from Claims Processing to Associate Decisions.
Probably why things are quiet….RID’s will continue to happen this year.
New Admin coming in next week so things will continue to change.
I feel the same, the vibe is so strange. I've been assuming just a truly major reorg- but who knows maybe its just complete disarray?
I used to think my manager was being cagey/keeping his cards close ti the vest. But now I am thinking he doesn't know what is going on either (and he is director level).
I agree about the external communication but the internal communication (or lack of) is even more important and more disturbing. We get word salad email or terse uninformative communication and in the meantime time no real communication on what is going on at our company. So we end up trying to get information on Layoff.com.
@a5+1jhnafqyj Agreed. I don't know what happened and I'm not going to speculate. But clearly too many responsibilities had been piled on.
@a3 response is very practical and I completely follow that. What is troublesome to me is why do we inundate with one leader with so many reporting structures. Maybe he was open to it but I believe we have a responsibility to be humane and considerate in what we throw on one person regardless of how capable and trusted that person is. I think he had Legal, HR, entire are CAO and HBO. My goodness, just one of those departments is a handful. Stress is very real and it can exacerbate any health condition if he already had traces of something.
Yes other companies have done similar things with reducing their social media presence but our company leadership has dug in deeper and retreated further. My spouse also works in the health care and it isn't as bad or weird for her.
I can follow you train of thought but offer another view. Blair was trusted. He was shouldering a ton of stuff since JG left and reorgs accrued more teams into his scope. Maybe we do not actively think of death and need a couple of days to grieve and sort through things. Given the number of people in his org impacted, I am certain that there is a lot to cover.
Also, across the industry, executive profiles have been taken down. A lot of social media account are also ‘on hiatus’. I would not view social media as the sign of presence or the humanity that we want to see in our leaders in times like this. A statement was made and there will be follow-ups and conversations with those immediately impacted.
That said, yes. The sentiment that we need better leadership is heard and agreed with wholeheartedly.
I used to be proud to be part of a Fortune 50 company. Now I am genuinely embarrassed. I tried my best to avoid work questions over the holidays.
I thought last summer was bad when every day I worried about being RIF'd but now it is just so weird. I haven't stopped thinking about RIFs but I'm more worried about how having ELV on resume is going to negatively impact my job prospects. I'm have been here 4 years so too long to just leave off