Are men at Nike treated equal to women? How does it affect layoff decisions?
With less men at Nike than women, should there be a Men of Nike group now?
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@dq Agree, white men specifically. Nike has decided that it does not need white men to work for the company or as a consumer. Go to Nike.com - what is this 'on the wave' horsesh-t? This is they type of r3tarded storytelling that needs to end. Durags and dirt bike riding hoodrats - why would you focus on the LOWEST common denominator? I'm not in marketing but I think maybe we should try appealing to a paying customer. Nike has lowered it's standards to the point of no standards at all.
Su-ks for your wife. I’ve seen it too. Does that mean DEI should reach beyond training and awareness programming, into monetizing discriminatory practices against other certain communities?
I get what DEI is supposed to be in theory. In practice at Nike however, it is discriminatory, racist, and s-xist.
Nike execs risk being paid less if they hire, promote, or retain too many white men. And have acted accordingly with systematic practices that are counter to employment laws; allegedly (added this part for you mods).
Former head of the Jordan Brand, CW, would have been a better choice than EH, IMO.
He is a terrific leader and did a great job leading Jordan.
@xe This line of thinking is exhausting. Maybe your wife truly earned it, but if you observe who’s been selected and promoted here over the past decade, merit hasn’t been the driving factor so much as financial incentives. There is a reason companies haves quickly stepped back from DEI.
@xe
Nike is perishing.
The US is 39 trillion in debt.
Don't take this the wrong way buddy, but your viewpoint is a fantastic failure.
At least the end will be interesting. I'll give you that.
I work with some very smart men, and some very d-mb men. I also work with some very smart women and very d-mb women.
The DEI push is about getting women the opportunity they never had before in a world dominated by men. Now that it’s even Men continue to cry about it.
I’m a man and I used to feel that way, but saw my wife get passed up so many times by d-mb a-s dudes. I’ve changed my perspective, you should too.
@n8
there is no DEI train
DEI came from the Ivy leagues
they needed a clever way of removing caucasians from their jobs in the 'white' countries
saying they wanted to fire whites would not have flown in the US
@ey Japan, China, and India all hopped on the DEI train. It wasn’t race focused but exclusively on women versus men. Prioritizing women helped the Geo VPs up the reporting line achieve their quota targets to get max compensation.
Woke mind virus is real. Disease like group think ruined this once unique and great company.
I think got bonuses for hiring non-white folks.
I wonder what type of majority shareholder would be ok with that?
It’s vanity.
That feeling of accomplishment you get when sitting in a conference room making unproductive and unnecessary suggestions. The kind everyone else is making eye rolls over. While you go home and tell your friends and family you’re saving Nike.
Are you the one asking for a different font in the slides? Maybe suggesting a way to frame something different using some textbook style definition you saw on youtube or a Ted talk. Maybe even asking about a non significant delta between numbers. All while slowing a meeting down. A boat anchor to progress.
Less. Fewer. Whatever. You are technically correct. But it doesn’t matter. You aren’t doing it to better the process or the outcome. If you were, you’d be loved for it. But you’re not. You do it for yourself. Selfish. Vanity.
@a4
No. They always say something like they meant well or they were confused.
It originated in the ivy leagues. They needed a clever way of removing
white males from their positions without coming out and doing it directly.
That would never fly in the courts. Notice how DEI was never practiced
in any of the non-white countries. The integrity in the US is gone.
Things will only get worse from here on.
@dq
bingo
only in the white countries
japan , china, india, ...
aren't selling out their own people
@b9
"It's fewer men, not less. Which may be why Nike should hire less of you. Also, look at the data."
Isn't it "...why Nike should hire FEWER of you"? Hah!
Is it men or just straight white American men? First it was STEM jobs all going to H1-Bs and now the H2-Bs have been increased, which doesn’t apply to Nike but does take jobs away from citizens and then there are the medical jobs and spots at the best universities going to foreign students which is a pipeline to employment and the employer is incentivized to hire foreign students because it’s cheaper for them. The American dream is now for everyone except Americans. Our country has become an economic zone and while it’s easy for people to come here and take advantage the same opportunities for us in other countries don’t exist. When you want to weaken a country you go after the men first. I’m a woman but it’s obvious to me that US citizens are being replaced with a foreign workforce.
Go back to reading your project 2025
It's fewer men, not less. Which may be why Nike should hire less of you. Also, look at the data.
If women are the majority at Nike it’s because of lower paid retail sales associate positions. Retail is a woman dominated industry. Nike can’t pat itself on the back for diversity if it’s mostly $16 an hour employees who bring the diversity.
@a9 That’s a pretty reductive take on the topic of discrimination.
Feels to me like Alice in Wonderland... or maybe what you smoke... but far from reality for sure...
lol. Bought a pair of shoes recently at a factory store. Manufactured almost two years ago. We’re still clearing inventory from before he was hired.
Exec bonuses are increased if they hit race and gender quotas. How would you feel if you found out your boss was financially incentivized to hire men?
@ab what are EH's merits? his ability to lower the stock by speaking during earnings calls?
…with 30+ years at Nike.
Is there a someone more qualified you would have liked to replace JD? Who? Does merit and experience not matter?
A man is literally the CEO
It started with good intentions, but quickly went off the rails. DEI turned into identity targets and pressure through monetary incentives, leading to discrimination by gender and race for over half a decade. It was always about box-checking over merit pushed by groupthink and enforced by a toxic culture where people couldn’t speak up without consequences. Picking groups over merit will always be discrimination, plain and simple. And you can’t fix past discrimination with a new form of discrimination.
False.
The latest publicly published data has women at over 50% in the overall company population.
Looks like the EEOC investigation into Nike’s DEI policies hit a nerve for some people. Men are the majority, over 50%, but that doesn’t mean they can’t face discrimination. VPs have had large compensation incentives tied to disproportionately hiring people from other groups since 2020. What kind of cascading effects do you think that leads to?