You have to be kidding me. They are announcing layoffs and we are to believe the most asked question was about the future of DEI? Grow a pair and dump it. Get back to the base business of oil production. If all you care about is being protected, please go somewhere where they can hold you close and make you feel comfortable
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I would like to think people get promoted based upon skills and experience.
Do you really think RM from HR was qualified for the Executive job she was in, if she was not black. Nothing against her race, but she was not qualified to be the Executive of HR. She may have been a good senior manager in HR but she was not Executive material.
I have seen other senior managers (all races and genders) at Chevron promoted beyond their skills, aka "The Peter Principle". There are too many leaders at Chevron that have pay grades above their skill sets and they never achieve the skills for the position. DEI is alive at Chevron and needs to be scaled back.
BTW, I believe in giving people a chance if they are qualified.
@h2 Chevron has routinely hired various STEM field graduates for Engineering and technology positions, regardless of their major. Why would you make such an uninformed comment? Seems like your employment or knowledge of Chevron is "made up".
It's clear that there is no reasoning with the Affirmative action / DEI robots that keep spouting the same BS they have spouted since the 90s. The only thing that will defeat DEI is continued legal pressures when it is applied.
It’s not made up. I know the person. It’s because CVX increased its DEI partnerships with conferences and universities and worked with the leaders to land a few of those positions in various functions. The students didn’t actually apply to specific intern positions like they normally would with the standard schools we recruit
@gt why would a math major even apply to an earth science internship? This sounds made up.
I am involved with university recruiting, and I know that the number of positions have been very limited the past few years, and what made things even worse for our candidates is that the spots have been taken up by DEI candidates. I had an intern who was a math major from HBCU school, really struggled in our ES position. Not only are these candidates not as strong as the schools we historically recruit at, but they’re not even the right major and background to fit into these roles. We take them as interns because leaders say it’s lower risk, but then we are expected to give them full time status if they just simply show up to work.
What’s worse now during the reorg is that I think the unqualified new DEI hires are taking up the positions of the experienced people we hired from traditional engineering schools.
That was not the idea behind the post. They are discussing cutting 9000 jobs and the most important thing on everyone’s mind is the future of the employee networks and DEI? Really? Sorry but would be willing to give up the “after hours social” or “team building exercises” if it meant we could stave off some of these cuts. This is not a college campus with frat parties, this is an oil company!
"@cw, Do you live in a vacuum? Women and minorities have been under-represented in those STEM fields for years, still are and an ongoing effort has always been in place to encourage their participation."
Whites and Asians are underrepresented in the NBA and NFL. Men are under-represented in education. So I guess we need DEI there too. Obviously that's absurd. Different races and genders tend to pursue different careers and life paths.
America is a meritocracy and DEI has no business in America. We are 60 years past the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and folks still want to be treated as an entitled class that want to bump more qualified people out of the way, but didn't do the work. If you are Asian, you know this reality first hand.
@cw, Do you live in a vacuum? Women and minorities have been under-represented in those STEM fields for years, still are and an ongoing effort has always been in place to encourage their participation.
Successful engineers and tech graduates of all ethnicities don't waste time pondering over "DEI" initiatives nor do we sit around feeling "victimized" and worry about people who are "elitists" or not, and all the other mud-slinging in your post.
Feeling like you are an "Elitist"?????? "Better "Worldview"????, I'll say!
Glad I'm not a narcissistic Chevron employee with all of these hang ups, lol.
“feel free to go back to your own country and create your own wonderful civilization”
I am happy to chip in to ship you back to Europe.
Women and people of color moving up the corporate ladder in most cases has to do with competence and education and not DEI. Insecure white men love playing victim while doing nada to better themselves. Masters degree - elitist. STEM - nerds. Math - why. High GPA - losers. Those men who actually invest time and effort in their education have a much better worldview, have confidence, and don’t play the victim and get swept up in every other populist outrage.
“ For the one who asked for the white men G-B network website:
www.tamu.edu”
Sorry, you are mistaken. That is a website to a cult pretending to be a University.
For the one who asked for the white men G-B network website:
www.tamu.edu
The only people who are worried about the future of DEI are those less qualified people who directly benefit from it. AKA, affirmative action hires/promotions. Race, gender identification and lifestyle are the requisite attributes to benefit from DEI, not knowledge, experience and capability.
"That was happening long before DEI. Plenty of unqualified white men were promoted through the good ol boys network."
I have yet to see an invitation to the infamous "good ol boys network". Do they have a website?
"Delicate white men and their fear of DEI is ridiculous frankly. It’s like it hasn’t dawned on them that 90% of top management is white males. "
You are so tone deaf. Your argument is that racist DEI hiring practices are ok because an extremely small and exclusive group of executives are white males?
Look I know its hard to lose, but at some point you just need to take a beat and accept that we need to stop looking at race and gender in hiring. We need to hire the best and most competent people regardless of their visible characteristics.
“DEI was Purley an excuse to promote unqualified people into positions they would have otherwise never achieved”
That was happening long before DEI. Plenty of unqualified white men were promoted through the good ol boys network.
DEI was Purley an excuse to promote unqualified people into positions they would have otherwise never achieved.
Let's get back to only hiring and promoting on the basis of education and proven abilities.
No DEI in India. Think about that d-mbacrats
Delicate white men and their fear of DEI is ridiculous frankly. It’s like it hasn’t dawned on them that 90% of top management is white males. God forbid historically oppressed minorities get consideration for employment.
feel free to go back to your own country and create your own wonderful civilization
we would root for you, honestly, because it would give us all more opportunities
you won't because you can't do it
I’ll believe Chevron never applied the ‘equity’ in DEI when they dump the Diversity ‘Advisor’ role on their selection panels.
“ I'm a minority, and this just fires my mission to leave any racist of a human who cowers in the name of DEI being the disease for all things wrong, in my dust. Just say you don't like people who aren't similar to you.”
Im so sorry that you are triggered by the idea that you should treat everyone the same regardless of race, gender, or any other identity.
D&I aren’t the disease for all things wrong. Just E.
I'm a minority, and this just fires my mission to leave any racist of a human who cowers in the name of DEI being the disease for all things wrong, in my dust. Just say you don't like people who aren't similar to you.
The assumption that people who hate DEI asked the question is far fetched. Diversity hires worried about their future unearned promotions is more likely.
What all did RM do? I want details!
DEI being first was a genuflection to HR, to the spirit of RM.
@a4, And Poor people don't complain about Food Stamps. Your point?
The emotions DEI fuels is why it was the first question. Why even have this frivolous thread when there are more important topics?
@a4 obviously is a diversity hire.
DEI = Didn't Earn It
DEI being the first question was to pander to white male insecurity. OP is a one such pathetic human.
Women and minorities don’t complain about DEI.
DEI was the hottest topic for the losers on this forum. Why blame management if it was brought up as the first item in the SETH Q&A?
HR probably got so tired of downvoting it here and planted it on the top of KMs list.