Thread regarding Texas Instruments Inc. layoffs

For those who think H1b is the problem...

As a H1b employee I constantly see some posts blaming H1b as cheap labour to replace US work force, I would say it is totally wrong.

  1. TI almost exclusively hire non US ncg only if the personnel has a PhD degree recent years. For someone who is not familiar with the H1b process, it is a lottery which has a winning rate of less than 40% and any ncg who does not win H1b in 3 years have to leave USA unless they can proof that they have extraordinary ability to be qualified for O1 visa. A NCG with masters degree but no publications will definitely not be qualified for O1 if they are not lucky enough to be selected in H1b lottery (and PhD is likely to qualify), which make it risky.
  2. Everyone who has searched internal openings on myhrtools would notice that every posting is showing immigration eligibility. Only job postings at Kilby/ATD/Some BU are eligible for immigration. There would be NO H1b in fab technicians, and only very limited H1b in fab engineers (as far as I know only PIs, not even for PEs). Mass layoffs in fab environment is nothing to do with H1b since none of the jobs there are "replaced" by H1b. BU H1bs got hit hard in September, suggesting layoff is there no matter whether you are a US personnel.
  3. It is MUCH MORE DIFFICULT for a non US ncg to get a job compared to US personnels. Considering current political situations, no employers want to hire someone who costs more to maintain immigration status and are risky to be influenced by immigration policies. If the candidates are equally qualified, 95% the hire will be the US personnel. As said before, openings that are eligible for immigration are all high level positions from Kilby/ATD/Some Bu, etc. The qualification standard is high and most likely it is for MS/PhD only. There is only one reason that TI still hire opt students which will eventually change to H1b, that is international PhD graduates are usually more qualified for the jobs that are eligible for immigration.
  4. US has 700 to 800k H1bs in total, which is ways smaller than the tech industry employee count. They are making up only a small portion, and every major company hiring H1b will have a much higher standard on them. They are subject to political environment change and job market change as numerous companies including Walmart stop hiring H1b starting this year. In TI, new H1bs are even not eligible for a fab engineer job. They have a much smaller job pool compared to US personnels and they are much vulnerable towards layoffs.

So stop blaming H1b in the company. Tariff and economy, development of AI, the upper management... There are far more to do with the layoff.


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Post ID: @OP+1kaaahjy2

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Part of remote site layoff, only our H1B employee was offered chance for position in Dallas on day of layoffs, American citizens bye-bye.

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Post ID: @4w0+1kaaahjy2

Completely incorrect.
Lots of H1Bs are only master degrees and there is no lottery for university hires. Also the CHIP Act allowed self sponsor for GC

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Post ID: @3m7+1kaaahjy2

I see the list of USA new hires every week for TI. I can tell you the 90-95% of the new hires at TI are most likely H1B holders or non-American based on their last names.

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Post ID: @190+1kaaahjy2

Survived 35 years at T.I in Tech Ladder pipeline. Finished as DMTS. Saw some HIB's perform well, saw others struggle (ie: culture clash) or even play the "I am special card" which wasn't fun to be around. Wouldn't say I am 100% against H1B hires.....just more like they need to be applied with precision not as a blanket solution.

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Post ID: @ef+1kaaahjy2

@d4 Americans she have an easier time competing for jobs in America. Indians should have an easier time competing for jobs in India. Chinese should have an easier time competing for jobs in China.

Its not xenophobic or wrong to acknowledge countries should prioritize their own citizens. Specially when the citizens get taxed and then the government gives that tax money in subsidies to corporations.

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Post ID: @d7+1kaaahjy2

@d5 runwrong...

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Post ID: @d6+1kaaahjy2

@cw The statement for tax is also totally run. H1bs pay full tax as US citizens, only OPT students who is in USA less than 5 years do not pay full federal tax. But considering TI is hiring almost exclusively PhD H1bs, they are paying full tax as a resident alien on their first onboarding day..

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Post ID: @d5+1kaaahjy2

@cw However the fact is, American talents holding a STEM PhD degree is ways easier to find a job compared to foreigners of same qualification level. The number of graduates is one factor, but qualification also matters. Imagine those from India/China are in a situation of "work hard or go back home", as a NCG they may appears to be more qualified with broader knowledge to make themselves competitive. Any US personnels that are competitive enough will definitely beat them in job market.

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Post ID: @d4+1kaaahjy2

@OP I agree that H1Bs are no where near root cause for the poor situation and leadership of TI.

But understand for the American workforce we are constantly hearing the message that there isn't educated American talent to fill these roles and we need to bring in foreign talent for these jobs. This is a straight lie. There is American talent, we have more American students graduating with engineering degrees (undergrad and post grad) in higher numbers than anytime in history.

Every position filled with H1B moves the needle in giving corporations more leverage over American workers as it makes them a little bit less valuable. At scale this actually matters a whole lot.

There is also the factor of taxation. I pay taxes or I go to prison. The US government then takes those taxes (only generated through taking money from its citizens) and gives them to private companies ie the chips act. H1B workers come from countries where they haven't been paying taxes to the US government.

Make no mistake the US government is not bringing H1B workers here for any altruistic purpose, they bring them here because corporate interests want cheaper labor in the long run.

Please don't confuse my thoughts here, this is a nuanced concept. I am not saying there is any need or space for Americans to hold malice or dislike for H1B holders. They are people just like Americans trying to make the best lives for themselves.

But the bottom line is H1B positions lower our value in the long run.

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Post ID: @cw+1kaaahjy2

Very thoughtfully put.

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