Thread regarding MassMutual layoffs

More ETX layoffs and offshoring?

I heard there’s going to be more major layoffs in ETX before year end or in January. Rumor is they’re bringing in Salesforce, Microsoft and AWS consultants to do all new work and then offshore teams and managers will support after that. Apparently they want 90% offshore by end of 2026 and are already at 75%


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Post ID: @OP+1k60hqn3f

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I will never forgive those who made poor money decisions, poor projections, and misjudgments that cost the company money that lead to me being laid off. I will never forgive whomever made the decision to let me go, when I was productive in my role, not busy. Productive. I didn't waste my time at mm. I didn't show up to not do my job. I didn't extend my work to appear more important than I was.

I can't lie. It has not been easy finding a new job. I want to cry everyday. Every day. My unemployment benefits are going to cut off soon. I've had a few interviews and only that. There are very few opportunities out there and it is getting bleak. My bank account is nearing the red and I do not have any family to go to to move in with.

I didn't feel or think I was entitled to work at mm. I was entitled to all those men in leadership to do better jobs that prevent layoffs. I was entitled to leaders who have strategy front in mind, and execute on them, creating goals for employees.

Please pray for me. I just want to move on.

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Post ID: @1fb+1k60hqn3f

@yd It wold be karmic justice for that to happen.. delayed but not denied!!

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Post ID: @10c+1k60hqn3f

@rt What area was that $25M Salesforce work for in 2019 because MM is has Salesforce today for customer service and data entry in some teams. It's horrible though because nothing Salesforce offers actually works for our industry. It'd be ironic if it's the same people involved investing another $25M in a project that will fail

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Post ID: @yd+1k60hqn3f

@rt Salesforce is a money S_U_C_K. Overrated. Never has driven sales. All it is is a data entry trap. Takes people away from meeting clients face to face. Bunch of M-O-R-O-N-S is 100% accurate. They have no plan. It is all haphazard and shooting from the hip. Whichever which way the wind is blowing one day, that is how the money is spent. A bunch of F_a_rking I_C_E Holes

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Post ID: @xv+1k60hqn3f

@xa They lay people off to justify the cost spent on vendors. They've been some of these companies year over year with no actual work being done. My team was dragged into some "exploratory sessions" a few years ago with one of these multi-million vendors and nothing has come of it. That was a couple million for their workshops and fancy presentations with made up numbers.

How many millions has that cost us over the year? Someone must be getting kickbacks....

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Post ID: @xt+1k60hqn3f

@rt
Nothing about the way mm spends and wastes money makes sense.
Making choices in hiring multi-million dollar vendors to do the work yet lay people off for reasons unfounded. Buying a very expensive building in Boston designated to hire stellar tech talent, yet lays tech people off. So that impressive building stays empty, makes 0 sense.
Hiring out of the country and paying them less than what they should will not yield state of the art product, or tech. How much will mm have to spend in a few years to fix what the vendors did not or could not do? What a vicious cycle of poor choices.

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Post ID: @xa+1k60hqn3f

@sr
100% right! Anyone who brought that feedback to an ELT member has been laid off or fired. The sheeple will just trudge along while the policy holders get fleeced and the Board/Regulators snooze.

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Post ID: @vy+1k60hqn3f

@sm no one is going to risk their job to tell this to SLT and ELT who are also part of the problem

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Post ID: @sr+1k60hqn3f

@se
who will step up and tell them? is it better to watch the disaster happen and say nothing?

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Post ID: @sm+1k60hqn3f

@rt it’s because the people making these decisions and leading the work aren’t technical. They’re all operations business people who believe it when they’re told all their problems will be solved. The technical people they do have are mostly MM lifters (aka they were thrown into ETX roles with no experience in tech)

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Post ID: @se+1k60hqn3f

@qa
Ironically MM invested $25m in Salesforce in 2017-2019 only to abandon it in 2020 with another $5m decommissioning/unwinding effort. Those who fail to learn the failures of the past are doomed to repeat them. Place is run by mo--ns.

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Post ID: @rt+1k60hqn3f

@q4 Found a subreddit dated 4 yrs ago that explores the cons of salesforce. This one in particular stood out to me. https://www.reddit.com/r/salesforce/comments/nwkjq0/the_most_controversial_question_is_salesforce/
And honestly all the comments align to very much what will happen at mm if and when sf takes over.

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Post ID: @qa+1k60hqn3f

@OP Salesforce is overrated. A time and mine su-k that doesn’t improve customer service or drive revenue.

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Post ID: @q4+1k60hqn3f

In which job titles are these people replacing exactly? legal and compliance? finance? payroll?

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Post ID: @be+1k60hqn3f

You're all getting fired eventually and most deserve it for sitting back and learning nothing for decades. A few lifers, some cheap H1B's, and the GCC will keep things running. They don't need you. At least Springfield is cheap though right?

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