Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

@he+1k3csbqb0

If you need to be literally looking over people's shoulders to know if they are being productive or not, you're exactly the kind of person that AI can replace. There's already plenty of metrics generating monitoring. You reports could be on the moon and you could still get all the data you need. The 1980s called, they want their manager back.

Interesting my friends company a smaller company that's not operated like a joke just reduced their required days in the office to one.

@he

If you need to watch someone to assess their productivity, you are a poor supervisor (not even a manager and surely not a leader) and should be among the first cuts.

@am

like a real-life human centipede

But but I get more done sitting around in my underwear at home. Plus the cities are scary.

I want all of you here. All the time. That way it is crystal clear which of you have nothing to do and can be fired.

there are groups at WF that are required to be in office 4 days per week

So why didn't you just say that in the first place?

I am the OP and I have no agenda. I am simply putting things into perspective. If more large companies move toward a 4-day workweek, the likelihood of us following that pattern increases. If financial services or banking companies adopt this model, it could also have an impact on us.

It may not happen that way, but I am just using my own logic to draw conclusions. You may see it differently or process it differently, and I understand that. If this information is not useful, you can skip this thread and focus on something that has more value for you.

We cover a broad variety of topics here on layoffs.com, and I am sure that most people reading this thread are at least curious about the topic.

@dw+1k3csbqb0

Not all, just most. Almost every scandal in this company's history was the direct result of in person work. In a shocking development, people don't tend to tell others to break the law, policy, or ethics rules using monitored comm channels. And, if they do, you know exactly who's guilty. Case closed. People talking around the water cooler is where a regulatory apocalypse begins.

OP being coy about why he posted this is saying a lot

@dw How on Earth did you read that into what he wrote?

@c3 so you think the entire company can function optimally when every single person is remote?

@c9 - Schart doesn’t GAF about any whining… BTW, JP Morgan is now threatened with unionization, partially due to RTO.

if you look at non-customer facing jobs in corporate environments - full remote is less than 10% of listings now..

factually, WF is now better than most large companies in only requiring 3 days.

that said, the policy says "minimum" of 3 days and that there is manager discretion in requiring more. and anecdotally it is starting to creep in...

“Hybrid is a competitive advantage.” Direct quote from Charlie from one of this year’s town halls. If he (and it will be his decision) pivots from this after we did the work to get out from underneath the asset cap while being fully remote during Covid, and while being on hybrid schedules since 2022, there’s going to have to be more of an explanation other than “We work better together.” We got him a 30 million dollar paycheck in addition to an extra 30 million in stock options this year with us all having a decent work life balance. The blow back will be EPIC if they reverse course. Look at Target and Cr--ker Barrel. I’m sure that one or two of us domestically can start an avalanche of bad press and social media boycotts that would make anyone wish they had a safe asset cap to hide behind.

@a6 Brown-nosing sycophants like you are why America is circling the drain. How's that boot taste, boot-li---r?

@a6+1k3csbqb0

Driving around town isn't work. It's the opposite, actually, and a complete waste of time that could be better utilized.

The one, and only, purpose of RTO is to cut headcount reduction costs by making it voluntary.

Also, the list isn't very accurate. My spouse works for a "4 days a week" company on the list and it's fully remote. Her entire group is, and it's not changing.

FHY/FRTO.

Corporations went lock step with COVID restrictions and now RTO. Funny how they're all relatively in sync with each other.

ok?

@OP and i care what others do? Or are you suggesting we all leave for other companies.

Enjoy the 2 days remote while you can.....

Back to collaboration as usual! Good management with foresight. USA is the world leader to get things done. When some freedom fighters what to fight to stay home, they need to be fired or replaced from overseas if no talent is here domestically. Work doesn't stop for comfortable homes!

@a1 - i am the OP, I took the list from https://buildremote.co/return-to-office/ - I did not want to change what they have and i think most of our folks whow where we are with this. just putting things out there, you can draw any conclusions you want

we got fu---d the most but did not even deserve a place on the list?