Thread regarding Chevron Corp. layoffs

Cloud and Agile Benefits?

The company went all-in on cloud computing (Azure) and Agile/Scrum. Cloud is a money waster in the long run. AI is a scam. And almost all IT projects are waterfall (not agile). Are those initiatives surviving?

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Post ID: @OP+1jmn38zhz

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100%…

The blind leading the blind.

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Post ID: @e4+1jmn38zhz

@OP’s post and the replies are a simple illustration of why IT needs to be gutted and rebuilt. This overpaid group doesn’t understand basics of technology, design, implementation and operations.

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Post ID: @dn+1jmn38zhz

@aq+1 Does the company use cloud as only for storage (IaaS) or also for Paas? Have any apps built on public cloud? See:
https://techhq.com/2024/02/cloud-hosting-services-increasingly-rejected-in-favor-of-on-premise/

Regarding AI, would you agree that generative AI (as opposed to predictive AI) has almost zero use cases in our industry?

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Post ID: @cc+1jmn38zhz

Tell us you’ve never written a line of code in your life without telling us lmao

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Post ID: @bg+1jmn38zhz

Our Chevron processes for building anything in azure has led me to do start using power apps just to avoid the headache. Now I have headaches from ba----g my head against the limitations of power apps instead but at least it’s better than the full Monty for those 3 users in accounting

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Post ID: @b6+1jmn38zhz

Cloud can be beneficial, but many companies are also realizing that controlling cloud costs can be even more challenging than running on-prem infrastructure, and hence many companies are bringing at least some of their infrastructure back on premises.

Cloud is great when you need horizontal scale, but for a lot of what we do, we simply don’t need that type of scale.

AI has been around for decades, and arguably, Chevron has been using (and sometimes at the forefront) if AI far longer than the latest buzz of LLMs were around.

Once again, where we’ve gone wrong with Cloud is that we have Chevronised it to oblivion. In principle, Cloud could have been massively beneficial for us by enabling small proof of concepts to be rapidly deployed, right through to massive, enterprise-wide deployments. But we tried to mitigate all the risks that come with cloud and in the process eradicated many of the benefits we could have gained whilst drastically increasing costs.

Microsoft already provides a range of mechanisms for deploying and managing cloud infrastructure at various scales, but Chevron being Chevron, we decided those weren’t good enough. We introduced a whole bunch of additional layers: Service Now, Orion, Ansible Roles, App IDs, architecture reviews, DAST and SAST scans, CDAS, mandatory “patterns”. Want to build a quick POC for three users in Accounting? Be prepared to follow the same process as rolling out an enterprise scale, business critical application. And no one wants to deviate from this, even if there are benefits, because no one wants to be responsible if things go wrong.

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Post ID: @aq+1jmn38zhz

lol ok boomer. What are you REALLY getting at?

Everything the world runs on is moving to cloud, if not already there. Could projects (not just IT projects, but all projects) run better? Of course.

AI is a scam? In what way?

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