If you live 50 miles within PulsePoint site you go in OR you get some type of exemption saying you do not have to go in? If you are not within 50 miles you remain working from home? Everyone is still doing the same work as they were before except some have to go in to an office 1-5 days a week, some without team members in their building, sitting on virtual teams calls (that the others are still doing from home)? Can anyone give an example from August 2023 - present of a time when you collaborated more effectively within the building versus virtually (because that is the "guise" being used correct?)? The individuals that do not live near a PulsePoint are now faced with not being able to apply for other positions or progress their career because of their zip code? I find this ironic as the company makes sure to advertise externally and internally that this is a company that believes that a members zip code should not dictate the type of care they receive or even access to care, but yet as an employee of this same company your zip code now dictates whether you can progress in your career or not. Make it make sense. How are some employees being told they have to go into an office, while others do not? Was there a cost of living stiphen or raise given to those who now how to drive to an office? To those who do not live near a PulsePoint - what are your plans? Stay in that position forever? Go to a new company? File a lawsuit? I find it hard to believe that everyone is ok with not being able to apply for different positions and being "stuck" for the remainder of their career with Anthem. Other than the outrageous amounts of negative feedback they received from the employee survey that they chose to ignore and still want to die on this hill that this should happen, I think this issue got pushed to the wayside because of the layoffs that started a month later in September 2023.
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@21b4 said: “ It's a shame. Anthem was such a great place to work for the last 34 years. Not anymore.”
So true. And so sad. Really, if you’re looking here as research for applying for a position with Elevance, run, don’t just simply walk away.
They act as if no one worked at home prior to covid. While some were getting set up at home, I work 65 hours weeks. I've worked at home for 23 years. There are constant emails about EAP and mental health while the threat of layoffs is constant. Overworked 60+ hours a week, threats of layoffs and hybrid with no team members in state. Now exit scanners are going in place. I would never recommend applying her now. It's a shame. Anthem was such a great place to work for the last 34 years. Not anymore.
Very inconsistent and I feel like some managers are doing it to brown nose. (Company doesn’t care) Why go in the office if you are not collaborating? My team is in VA and I’m in MD. Absolutely no collaboration! Hauling the laptop in for a 40 mile commute just to take teams calls is insane. Also, some folks go in for two hours just to say they went in and completed their requirements. Not everyone is adhering to the exact hybrid models they are making their own rules for their area (going in quarterly). Has anyone else been told that there are other options for completing the hybrid model obligations? When will this stop? This company made folks who were hired as telecommuters return to the office. Folks who have been home for over a decade and more. This is a tactic to get folks to quit (RIF themselves perhaps). Most of us need our jobs so we are adhering to the requirements set forth by our department but I know upper management had a say in this and it’s so unfair that if you are not on a team in your area you have to go in, such a waste of time!
That’s interesting to me. My direct manager also coded us all as virtual. Half the team and the manager are over 50 miles away and the other half are within 50 miles. Those of us within 50 miles are required to go into office once per quarter. Apparently that direction came from above my direct manager.
Well, at least one of our managers was honest. They said it was up to Level 1 management as to whether or not a person had to report into an office. Typical Evilance, not treating employees equally across the organization and lying about it.
It's no secret at all. Everyone on my team lives within 50 miles. Each person was hired as a remote worker an average of 10 years ago. Manager made everyone "virtual workers" in the system. Not a single person has had to go in. Not even once.
We received the same messaging. If your badge swipes don't meet the in-office number of days required, you are at risk of being terminated. Same situation here. Reporting into a small office with no amenities and absolutely no collaboration occurring because we don't work in the same departments and the location is typically two-thirds or more vacant. No team members are assigned to that office location. No gains from driving just short of 50 miles into the office, but a lot of losses financially with no compensation adjustment (was hired as full time remote). Already looking externally for another full-time remote job or one where I would actually be working with a team at an office location (which is probably what leadership wants, some of us to leave....).
The bottom line is, the commercial leases are long 10 years plus. They cannot have empty office space being paid for. You are just tools being used by the corporate clowns.
Talent Acquisition is checking your zip code when you apply. If you are outside of 50 miles from a Pulsepoint, you will get a rejection email as they are not considering anyone for remote roles.
We just got an email from our VP that said that we all need to go in and they were monitoring badge swipes and if we fail to adhere it could lead to termination. Some major BS since no one in my local office is even on my team so the whole collaboration point that the CFO preached in his last townhall is a joke
Regarding corporate real estate investors posting...Will you please explain what this means...further elaborate on your posting? Thank you
There are more than a couple of board members and possibly c-levels who are major investors in corporate real estate and would only benefit from seeing vacancies filled. Not sure of any linkage there...
I live over 50 miles from an office so I do not have to go in to an office. Who knows how long that will last. We don’t collaborate with any other departments or speak to members or providers.
The only consequence that I have heard so far is that you cannot be given “exceeds expectations” on your yearly review if you are VP and above and refuse to come in 3 days per week. This might start filtering down to everyone else or it might not because nobody seems to know anything at this company. Either way, it has hurt the productivity of the various teams I work with.
To add to the conversation, if you are outside of 50 miles and looking to work at elevance (new hire/previous associate) you will not get paid as advertised, you will like move to a national zone 4 if you live in CA for example, significantly less pay.
I know as I was rif'd and when interviewing was told that info. Really su-ks because cost of living is crazy in CA and they will penalize you for not living within 50 m.
I was a 22 year employee who was remote for 15 years. I moved 4 years ago because I was able to and then penalized for moving.
Buyer beware...
When I was hired 9 years ago - I was completely remote. When they rolled out the "return to office" - so many people rebelled that they renamed it "hybrid workplace". I gave it a fighting chance and my mental health has struggled significantly. I had therapy today and was crying about the increased stress of just having to plan to go into the office 1 day a week and the accommodations I've worked on making for myself (reserving a focus room instead of a cubicle due to chemical sensitivities and sensory processing issues). I wasted so much time just driving in to the office today while I was focused on a project at home, that I lost valuable time literally to swipe my badge. Not to mention that when you reserve a focus room - 9 times out of 10 - someone is already in there not realizing you have to reserve it.
I'm not quitting - I love my boss and my team. But I finally decided to ask for accommodations to be a virtual worker due to psychological factors as well as allergies. I am scared to death to ask for them - which says something about the power this company has over its' employees - but my therapist AND my doctor have said it's not a weakness to ask for an accommodation and it's not an effort to skirt the system - it's a legitimate reason to not work in the office. Will I go in for meetings? Heck yes! But the stress of saying "you have to swipe a badge at least one day a week" when my commute is 90 minutes round trip and road rage is at an all time high - I've decided to ask for help finally.
Some people have' medical,' or other excuses/ reasons for not coming in which are being honored. The 50 milers are sc--wed. Go to a doctor and get a note. There are some good reasons out there.why people are ' exempt' from coming in . anyone care to share?
I know of one who is a medical care taker for her mom, she works the "swing shift ' 4pm-12 am her arrangement was approved.
Another where the associate got excused because she has all ergonomic equipment at her home office. That arrangement got approved
Another due to allergies . / Germaphobe
I'm just saying..
BUT.. chances are you will be looked over/ or lower than usual when it comes to promoting, raises and AIP etc..
So go in do your time ? There is no good answer friends. Yes the strategy now is to get reclassified, get people to retire on their own, quit, or get terminated, not to mention applying within the company also su-ks. :(
Yep, Grievance and Appeals are 100% work from home. I know lots of employees within 50 mile range.
I think part of the lack of clear communication and the in-office policy not being applied consistently across departments and teams is management trying to frustrate people, so employees quit the company. I am still hearing that management can apply in-office requirements as they want for their direct reports. Pushing people to quit will save the company a lot of money on supplemental payouts while trying to reduce 10 percent of the workforce by the end of 2024. I think some employees are being allowed to continue working remote full time secretly even though they are within 50 miles and assigned to a specific office location.
I agree that HR has been super quiet about it since the layoffs in Sept.
They want their employees to go to the office. They do not want employees who cannot go to the office. So, if you are 50 miles away, you are not wanted.
You are not your job.
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