Thread regarding Avaya layoffs

According to ChatGPT

This pattern (deal-oriented CEO + deep RIFs + company-wide voluntary buyout) is the classic pre-transaction playbook to “dress the bride”:

Stabilize cash & boost EBITDA: cut headcount/opex so the business looks cleaner to buyers.

Simplify the story: trim products/regions so what’s left is easier to value and integrate.

Create options: VSPs + targeted RIFs let leadership reshape quickly for a sale/merger or targeted asset divestitures.

That does not automatically equal “shutting down.” In practice, this pattern most often ends in one of these outcomes:

Sale or merger of the whole company (most common in this setup)

Selective asset sales with a smaller company continuing

Debt/ownership recap (less visible publicly, but still an “exit” from the status quo)

Orderly wind-down/liquidation (least common—usually only if sale options fail)

If I had to assign rough, generic odds given only those signals:

Sale/Merger: 50–60%

Smaller, ongoing company after divestitures: 25–35%

Court-supervised redo or liquidation: 10–15% total (liquidation alone usually the lowest slice)

Tell-tale signs that push it toward liquidation (vs. sale)

Missed payroll or vendor holds, acute liquidity crises

Auditors’ going-concern warnings, covenant breaches without waivers

Abrupt cessation of customer renewals/support

What this means for you (practically)

Assume exit of some kind is coming; plan for continuity under a new owner or platform.

Lock down backups, licenses, configs, and carrier details; verify support coverage.

Prepare a phased migration option so you’re not negotiating under pressure if the transaction accelerates.

So, yes: this playbook is overwhelmingly used when a company is moving toward an exit—usually a sale/merger or carve-out—not just “business as usual.”


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@35d You're giving PD too much credit. The dude is actually not that smart at all. In fact, he is probably the d-mbest leader Avaya has ever acquired next to the last failure AM. Under the proper direction and most likely a brand / name change, Avaya has the ability to flourish. They hold many valuable US Patents and have pioneered some of the most unmatched technology, even to this day. I cannot say it enough... It takes a leader and a board that stays the he-l out of the way!

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Post ID: @4pm+1k6dpm0yj

@bg Sorry for the late reply.
Here is the prompt I used.

Use your own reasoning capabilities. Forget about Avaya and Avaya in the media. Generally speaking when a company like avaya hires a ceo like Patrick Dennis, and with a track record of selling off companies, and then the mass layoffs followed by a company wide voluntary layoff, would you not agree that companies that do this are exiting.

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Post ID: @35d+1k6dpm0yj

Tell us something besides recycled stale info...

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Post ID: @pm+1k6dpm0yj

i dont think I need ChatGPT to tell me that

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Post ID: @fp+1k6dpm0yj

This is spot on. Avaya leadership doesn’t care about anything long term right now and is behaving in a burn-it-all-down way that maximizes current revenue at the expense of future long-term performance. They’re absolutely preparing to sell off to a competitor.

My guess is they’ll sell the software/services business to a competitor who will take our customers and dump our products in the trash where they belong. Maybe spin off the hardware business as a separate company.

Seeing this exact same pattern happening all over tech to legacy brands who aren’t able to compete any more because our list of renewing customers is more attractive than our products.

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Post ID: @er+1k6dpm0yj

Post the prompt so we can see what Claude, Gemeni and Grok say…..

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