Thread regarding Allstate Corp. layoffs

We all stand on the backs of the previous generation. Steve Jobs and Bill Gates were and are boomers. Where would we be without them. You would be talking on a land line only and looking up things in a manual to write an estimate and filing in a file cabinet. Before that files and estimates were hand written. I know because I was at Allstate then. The generation before that invented television and the jet engine. Before that generation was the radio, automobile, and air plane inventions. We are not as smart as you think. You only know what you know because of others.

@2yku+1aD1BeUT. You are right on my man/. You have every right to be proud of your accomplishments. It is the narcissistic do-nothings that I take issue with. You were making the world a better place when their mama’s were still changing their diapers. The laziest generation thinks they are owed something from everyone and they shouldn’t have to work for anything. Move on a&&wipe

Dude.. I’m 37 years tenured... so clearly I am over 50 plus.. I can assure you I am not a problem..there are problems at all levels of age.. there are many younger employees that look to myself and my coworkers for assistance and guidance.. age has nothing to do with it...

You young sn-t faces have no clue of the meaning of “work ethic”.

Ok boomer

young guy= lying doosh who did not make any app or do anything of consequence. Anyone who had the for sight to accomplish something like that wouldn't be on this site dogging hard working people. Young doosh says "6 figure job helping millions of people with technology I created".. stfu and gtfo!!

Old guy = 100% correct!

A bunch of losers that have no problem blaming their parents for their problems. Great generation of lazy, good for nothing punks that majored in complaining at the school their parents likely paid for. I have neither the time nor the inclination to listen to someone go on about how those before them screwed them. Tired and old argument that has no value in life or the workplace.

@2mwu+1aD1BeUT you're not the problem... It's the 50+ crowd that are the problem

I am a 37 year tenured employee in claims. I have great results both with my customer’s expectations and my metrics. I am often helping younger, less tenured employees with technical issues and other issues, in addition to having a wealth of knowledge. This divisiveness is awful. There are good people at all levels and bad people at all levels. Get over yourselves

Considering I came out of college in 2008, in the middle of an economic downturn the older generation created... Plus my generation is the first in US history that will be worse off on average than their parents, is the creation of the older generation because of all the fu----g up of my generation they did.

Forgive me for not having much respect or faith in their judgement on average.

@2csm+1aD1BeUT haha, mic drop, not.

Young guy 1, old guy zero.

C'mon guys keep it up, I was enjoying watching you two losers argue.

@2uyb+1aD1BeUT Your desperate bloviating is a clear sign of your insecure delusions. I could give a rats a$& what you claim to have done with your miserable bottom-feeding life. My only wish for you is that you could see through your own flimsy veneer and do something with your useless life. I’m out.

@1ehl+1aD1BeUT keep it coming. If you have an iPhone or Android phone, you've probably used my apps :)

I know your life is miserable making a career doing absolutely nothing of consequence at Allstate. But looks like you're the one with the attitude.

I'm entertained with your desperation to make me look bad. Just remember, jealousy is a stinky cologne. :). Keep doing nothing with your life, I'm out

@1gyt+1aD1BeUT its gotten me a college degree, 6 figure job helping millions of people with technology I created, and the ability to look back at the entitled fu--s I worked with at allstate and laugh that they are still there and wanting respect for achieving literally nothing. But, please, tell me how I should see how far my attitude gets me... Suck a di-k

This last guy is really an a$&. Take your uninformed attitude and see what that gets you in the real world. You talk about respect? That’s a laugh. What a mo--n. Get a dictionary and look up the hard words.

Working for years does not equate to wisdom, not does it earn you respect.

Fn boomers and this belief that they deserve respect because they are old as fu-k and have been at the same company for over a decade or two is laughable...

You're the one who made a career out of drone work at an insurance company and didn't have the ba--s to do something with your life worthy of respect and admiration. Instead you come on here sounding like the bitter old farts you are for wasting your life swapping hours for dollars.

So true. Technology is a promise or a threat. surveillance capitalism and exploitation come with a lot of systems and tech. Critical thinking is important. Those not respecting wisdom or history or those that have worked their buts off over the years deserve respect t and to be listened too. Not shamed in the workplace. It’s common sense. They don’t seem to teach that in the systems or insurance and HR world it seems

Cool story bro, but what have you done lately other than fall behind the times and slow the company down?

You can't blame tenured employees for upper management being too cheap and too crusty to advance the company's business philosophy and technology. Coming from myself who is a 17 year tenured employee and my peers we beg for a new vision and updated technology and updated processes. But you are all barking up the wrong tree. We don't have control over any of that.

I actually see the opposite. In my experiences over 14 years the many of the younger employees that come in seem to bring bad entitled attitudes and who seem to actually want to do less but feel they are owed immediate advancement opportunities just because they are young and new. They are the first to complain about any sort of process change and improvements. And when a new program or technology is actually implemented they surprisingly seem to have a harder time with it.

Now I am not saying all the new younger employees as that would be generalizing and would be just as off as their generalizing. There are some younger new employees that are really great but they don't bring that entitled toxic attitude with them like the others.

On the other side of the coin there are so.e that have been here 20+ years that no longer bring any value and think because their as--s have made a permanent imprint on a seat that they are not replaceable and owed a job. They in my opinion do need to go.

Agree completely with OP. Playing the generation card, like the race card, only demonstrates how weak your argument must be. It wreaks of desperation. Contributors on this site are at each others throats when the incompetence of senior leadership (?) is the root cause of many problems.