@10f4 Truth!! Never have enough people to do a good job. You do the bare minimum just to get the work done. No overtime offered. Staff burned out AF.
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I doubt it’s the team members that are the issue. This company does not provide adequate people to do the work so everyone seems incompetent because they are stretched paper thin and burned out AF.
@283 There is another route … to buy the company who has the account. That’s what DXC had done. DXC made some serious critical mistakes leading to firing of the CEO. From their DXC morphed a spinoff company - GWT. Internet says they’ve been around for years … which is not true. Those statements are based on timeline of existing contracts of the comping Gainwell bought.
DXC is a publicly traded company. GWT is not. The spinoff (GWT) were headed by the lackeys at DXC. GWT is privately funded by persons with billions of dollar collections. The largest private investor is headed by a non-US born person. Someone affiliated with the offshoring country.
Payment to offshoring is zero sum. Ex: they may work for $1 an hour … but their work is scheduled to take 1500 hours. That’s over half a year.
This exact same thing happened at our account.
Even when the writing was on the wall and they were being informed, the uppers doubled down on their arrogance. They’re scrambling now. It will not surprise if GWT loses even more business over the next two years.
It’s hilarious that Gainwell employees are downvoting comments on here that are the truth.
If you keep your head in the sand reality will come knocking. Denying the truth isn’t a good strategy.
The shared services management is hilarious. They have no clue . CEO probably doesn’t have an idea how to run a company . Lol
Agree 100%.
The end is coming for Gainwell Technologies. It’s very obvious. If you can’t see that then I have a bridge to sell you for a really good price.
It was a terrible run. But it’s time to pay the piper.
Hey GWT! Paying people off isn’t going to work any longer.
It’s very obvious. Just look at the data. GW was in over 40 states back in 2021. Now they are in less than 28. Their debt coming due in 2027 exceeds $4 billion. They continue to offshore jobs for cheaper less quality labor. They continue to lose more business than they are taking in. And on top of all of this there are whistleblowers, lawsuits, exposure from Bloomberg about fraud. The fraudulent business they are running is coming to an end. It’s right there in black and white.
It’s a pretty poor decision to stay employed there.
The door is closing.
What exactly is going on in Ohio?
You guys should see the stupidity going on with the Ohio account. That entire team should be gutted. It's hilarious awful.
Definitely a sinking ship.
Pretty obvious.
Anyone denying that doesn’t think the sky is blue.
That door is closing.
I think people are not seeing the truth. Thinking that GW is bulletproof is being very shortsighted. When companies are guilty of fraud the contract becomes void. And they are often liable for damages. In this case GW would go bankrupt and not be able to pay the damages to all the states they ripped off. The states would have no choice but to move to another organization or do it themselves. GW is far from bulletproof. More and more fraud is going to be exposed. More whistleblowers will come forward. More lawsuits will be filed. GW can’t afford to pay off all the lawsuits. There is no getting out of it now. GW is going away. It won’t be fast, but it’s happening.
Action urgency excellence ha ha - Agreed - You just can't close the door and the cost of offloading to another company would just be huge.
Has anyone received or heard of any subpoenas being issued in the past week or two? Either civil or criminal. It just seems as though at some point state auditors or federal prosecutors will step in, and am wondering who may have heard anything.
@Action urgency excellence ha ha
Gainwell is absolutely on the way out. They aren’t the only game in town. They may be the biggest but they can certainly fold up from committing fraud. States can’t just jump from their poor MMIS system quickly but they can certainly transition away from it.
All contracts allow for an out in the event that GW were to basically close. Thinking GW can do whatever they want to the states for 10 years is laughable. That type of attitude got them in this situation in the first place. GW is on the way out. The writing is on the wall. It won’t be quick but it will happen. There is no way for them to survive the fraud exposure and their looming debt that is coming due in 2027.
Watch and see.
Thinking it won’t happen to me definitely won’t save you.
Gainwell is not on the way out. Running an MMIS is too important. The States can't run the GW systems. The only other option is to put the contracts up for bid, a process that takes many years. Along the way they probably find out GW was the least bad option. Sad but true.
Gainwell knows this. For the foreseeable future (10 years minimum) they can do whatever they want and the States are just going to have to su-k it up.
A lot of the Gainwell lifers are sc--wed because they work for their lifer managers who carefully gatekeep their favorites and micromanage their own little spaces to keep themselves afloat. But a lot of them just don't really care, they're very content filling a space on the contract that gives them job security. Some leaders count on that complacency as a mandate to do whatever...
All the Gainwell lifers are sc--wed. These people are so stupid they aren't even qualified to work at Walmart.
Gainwell is on the way out.
With all this exposure from whistleblowers and articles by Bloomberg and the timing of DOGE focusing on fraud and waste it is just a matter of time before Gainwell is forced to close shop.
It may take some time but the writing is on the wall.
It can’t be saved.
Too much fraud in the past along with the present. When they are held accountable they won’t be able to recover.
Witnessing politics at all time high as well .
This company has transformed into a dumpster especially under the new leadership . Extremely poorly managed .
Investors need to step in and save this company .
They give themselves big bonuses every summer basically to run the company into the ground. Only the higher ups from my understanding.
Once this all comes to a head Gainwell won’t be in business. More is going to come to light. This is the tip of the iceberg.
Any Gainwell employees that choose to stay employed there need to do so with their eyes wide open.
What does this link have anything to do with GW? https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/arizona-woman-pleads-guilty-fraud-scheme-illegally-generated-17-million-revenue-north
They are going to pay big time if they do not fix it immediately. Mistreating employees , fraud doings . If anyone in Gainwell top management reading this message — Stop playing with employees and tax payer money .
Are you saying that the Texas workers are being utilized thru a fraudulent laptop farm? Similar to this maybe? https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/arizona-woman-pleads-guilty-fraud-scheme-illegally-generated-17-million-revenue-north
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There are NO Federal mandates to keep PHI in the US. Some of the state contracts I believe have wording to that effect. So it would be a contract breach and not a crime. Morals and ethics are a poor persons traits. Whatever it takes is a rich man’s traits. You are seeing the whatever it takes leadership stance. What it takes to see record profits is utilizing a cheaper work force. If there are ramifications from that those will be addressed in time.
Look at Teams. All HMS Indians are listed as working out of the Irvine office. They also use Texas based phone numbers but they are all in India. It's dishonest.
Your data was compromised a long time ago. Every time you make a purchase that isn't cash based, click on an ad, cruise the internet or social media., etc.
I wouldn't count on CNN, MSNBC or any MSM, etc for worthy and 100% accurate news. A report was done a couple of years ago, that showed the amounts that individual news media received in advertising dollars received from foreign and special interest groups such as China, etc.
You were sold out by the previous administration as they white washed tax payer dollars through NGO's and so forth
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I think DOGE has already proved they don't care who sees our private data.
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Where did you find that out? Internal? Send to @DOGE they will expose it.
HMS listed all the Indian employees as working out of Texas!
@Truth
Not absolving GW at all, just saying the States are not innocent. A big problem is the godawful state of most RFPs. States hire consultants that convince them they need whatever the IT flavor of the day. 20 years ago that was N-TIER. Is that even a thing anymore?
Somewhere along the way RFPs became devoid of much detail. The States thought they could get whatever they wanted by doing this but they found out there's no free lunch. So when they get down to the nitty gritty details portions of the RFP get negotiated away OR the timeframes get extended.
GW gets many contracts re-awarded because only they know the details of what it takes to run an MMIS - you sure won't find it in an RFP. Again not saying that GW is the good guys but the States shoulder much of the blame.
it’s so shocking to know that they are sending employees to other vendor companies which have offshore centers and not even bothered about US citizens data being exposed.
I am fully aware of off-shore personnel accessing areas that should be restricted to those who are on U.S. soil based off contract requirements. But that doesn't stop Gainwell from using those resources where they shouldn't. They think they're being sneaky by having off-shore personnel use Google phone numbers or some other IP telephony. But when you call someone and can hear the background noise, it is evident they are not in the U.S. And with a little leg-work you can determine the source of a telephone number and so forth.
@DOGE
Saying that the states are partly to blame is simply refusing to see the truth. Gainwell flat out stole from the taxpayer and the states and the federal government. This is fraud. Trying to say “hey the states are also to blame here” doesn’t remove any responsibility from Gainwell. Gainwell knowingly committed fraud. They paid off whistleblowers instead of actually addressing the fraud. Gainwell is 100% in the wrong.
Gainwell has competition. The states can change their provider or do it themselves. Gainwell is definitely not the best option. Most states use them because some other state is using them so they must be the best.
The fraud has to stop and Gainwell needs to be held accountable. Leaders need to be prosecuted. Sales folks need prosecuted. Gainwell needs to repay what they have stolen. And if that bankrupts them then so be it.
They got greedy now by sending jobs to offshore and exposing confidential data. I have multiple proofs that data being exposed to 3rd party companies . To Gainwell - Stop your cheap tactics and protect tax payers data and stop exposing it to 3rd party companies by sending teams to Indian companies .
@DOGE, a lot of times the State and the Gainwell team have been working together a long time as quasi-colleagues. People on both sides of the contract have become complacent and rules are interpreted with a certain level of bias. The article was interesting reading, it seems like between federal CMS and state governments and their IT vendors, a lot of "conflicts of interest" could pop up in audits. But at the end of the day, the State was our client and it could usually be argued that Gainwell should have known better. Isn't that what a fiscal intermediary does?
Can current employee also reach out ?