Thread regarding Allstate Corp. layoffs

This is still unfortunate whether it’s front line workers or management.

I was advised there would be layoffs at this level and it was "probably a better idea to take the offer now"

This seems aimed at management level....

I’ll be ok with my measly $17 an hour salary.

"focus and expectations on development" sounds like a nightmare and a signal to gtfo

Has anyone else in Band E SCO been told that this is not a reduction in force? That it is a talent strategy to bring in new capabilities? That if you stay there will be more focus and expectations on development, but not told what that development or expectation is other than future oriented, change ready, customer centric, digital mindset, results driven and people focused?

Take it from me. Listen very carefully. If you don’t take the vto, you’ll be laid off by the end of the summer.

Leader mentioned performance trend in the script, even though I survived the prior selection process that weighted 2 years of performance at about 65%, with assessment at 30%. That was only in November, and now on this list of voluntary, optional, eligible employees. Seriously, 4 months from being selected to stay to being offered to leave. Go figure. Claims has never been so systemically challenged in all disciplines from a cost containment and capacity standpoint.

Well, I can tell you I am band E at SCO and was told by the managing attorney for the office that it is being offered from my level and up across the board to most departments at those levels. Does that mean everyone at every band level? No, probably not. Does it mean many? Yes. In my SCO office, there are at least 10–12 Band E attorneys. I know of at least 6 that received the offer, and the others, I do not have the type of relationship with to actually ask them. I have been a band E for 8 years. Now, I would assume they have a target dollar number they are aiming to reduce costs by. Assuming not enough people take the offer, then layoffs are inevitable.

Yes, there is probably some outright lying on here, but more misunderstandings, rumors, and generalizing specific actions.

Maybe someone said “I’m an D and wish they would offer me VTO” and someone interprets that as they are offering VTO to Es and above. Or legal is offering a VTO and someone generalizes that to all of home office.

This site is rife with internal claims specific rumors that are stated as though they are facts for all of h–.

@2enh+1apJojg7 so all these people posting here are lying?

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How would anyone be identified? Allstate is a large company, and there are likely a few hundred, possibly more, employees at the supposed affected band levels. Furthermore, there'd be no way to verify exactly who any given person is, as it'd be impossible to prove it's actually that person posting here.

You’re an id––t. It’s happening and people obviously don’t want to disclose their locations so as to not be identified.

I'm skeptical. I've heard none of what's been posted here, and some things don't make sense from a financial perspective. Why would Allstate willingly pay people more than what those people would get if they went through a layoff?

I'd like to know what offices people who say they can confirm work at, because there's been no such discussion where I work.

I don’t know of a single person that was subsequently terminated once they turned down an offer. I’ve been with the company for many years and I know of many resources that faced this circumstance.

Has anyone here been through this at Allstate before, not taken the offer and stayed employed?

What about other subsidiaries? Avail, Arity, etc?

I’m confused. I’m not understanding the “never work for Allstate again” part since they had to offer jobs back to people they laid off last time since they lost too many people. And every dept it seems like is understaffed so why are they doing this again?

It went out to Allstate, and will go out to Esurance and Nat Gen next.

The following post was on another thread —I believe that legal will become the same company experience as claims —things don't look good going forward

I don’t know which department you’re working in but in claims we are all working 50 to 60 hours a week because of the pressures to meet our numbers on a daily and weekly basis or being told we will be written up and terminated. Writing 7-8 estimates a day off 30-50 horribly taken photos from shops expecting a $12,000 supplement check . They have instilled fear in us to do double the work load Or be thrown into the streets like our coworkers last year.Instead of weekly reports we are shown daily reports on spreadsheets and asked what we were doing all day.

Curious, has these offers went out to only Allstate, Encompass and NatGen or is it centralized to a majority of one group?

It was May 10th I believe.

For those that have received the offer, by what date must you decision need to be made?

If someone takes the offer, they can depart Allstate in either August or October, plus receive 6 months pay minimum (up to 12 months pay maximum). So, six months of employment (assuming October departure date) + 6-12 months pay in a lump sum + pro-rated bonus next March. That’s a year to 18 months to find new employment, even in a new industry, and a bonus next spring. Feels like a better deal than unemployment but to each their own. Only certain people are eligible.

Our VSO option includes the non compete but not the cannot work for Allstate in the future. We do have the 6mo severance for up to 5 yrs and 12mo severance for over 5 yrs that has been discussed a lot in this thread.

How in the world can this be happening!? I've given so much to the company and contributed every day. 6 DPA'S many critical business plan implementations. Where is this said non compete clause? What department? This is sickening and mad at the same time. All this activity should be a warning sign to everyone being left behind. What a shame..

That clause is not in my agreement, nor is there a non-compete.

Why the clause that you can never work for Allstate again? Never heard of that before in any previous packages?

Don’t be stupid. Take the severance and take the money with time to look for something new. Otherwise you take a great gamble getting nothing and no time to look.

What as——-es! F this place and screwing people over. Ugh. I wish I could leave now.

So it seems to me that the company is giving a choice now so those who decline the offer are given no severance or anything when laid off later. This opens up the company to do this putting the ball in the employee's court. If you don't take the voluntary package then you accept possibly not getting anything later.

I would not be surprised if this is something that they do for lower band employees as well in some areas.

Our department's VSO offer does not include the non-compete terms but I have heard other departments and positions within the impacted bands do have a non-compete. Also our offer is 6 months severance for up to 5 yrs and 1 year severance over 5 years. We also cannot work for Allstate again if we take the VSO option.

Can you take the severance and leave sooner than the August or October date?

Vso is minimum 6 months severance. If you get a layoff, they are not required to give severance and 2 weeks per year worked would only be 2 months of severance. What am I missing here? Also, I didn’t see anything in the agreement about not working in insurance industry for 2 years? That’s a deal breaker.

Part of this offer is in March you would get a pro-rated bonus. If you do not take the VTO I believe you open yourself up to being tapped on the shoulder and let go. Not sure if they would offer severance.

Are you thinking of moving to India and planning on working for Allstate again?

“The VSO is 2 weeks for each year minimum 6 mos max 1 year of salary. No health insurance for any time period. Also, you can never be employed by Allstate again.”

I agree with other poster - 2 weeks per year is same as current severance policy. Why would I take VSO with the added “never be employed by Allstate again” when I could get a better package through a lay off?

E and up were offered this last week as well in my area. Not all were offered but most is my understanding. If they accept they get 6 months severance for up to 5 years tenure and 1 year severance over 5 year tenure. Those who accept the offer are not rehirable and have a 2 year non compete within the insurance industry. They will be eligible for the free COBRA as long as that goes.

PLEASE NOTE: Not all areas have the same terms and conditions for this voluntary term so the offer may vary some.

I will take severance over unemployment any day... they could decline to offer severance or just run you out in June with BTE as the baseline cut or just increase your workload and metrics and terminate you that way . You get 6 months of better pay then unemployment and the state systems are overwhelmed and a nightmare