Thread regarding Allstate Corp. layoffs

Outcome based delivery

So for ATSV what do you think this means

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@1wck+1ecfqOyg the only positions likely to go overseas are quality assurance, product support, and other less valuable/automate-able positions.

Software engineers are hard to find, period. would be unwise to lay off valuable positions like that, they are an asset, especially in an acquisitions...

They have been paying below market in tech for a while now and it shows with all of the turnover. Makes sense to do what they can to improve morale among hard to replace, highly skilled workers.

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Post ID: @1ado+1ecfqOyg

Jobs are just as likely to go to Pune as they are ANI.

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Post ID: @1wck+1ecfqOyg

It all should come to NI. We have the better skill sets. We have fewer lifers biding their time doing useless jobs until they get their pension. Allstate has been bloated for decades with people in useless business positions making poor decisions. You only have to look at non tech leaders making decisions like compozed. Five years of millions of dollars of spending with no valuable output except a few useless internal tools. Horrendous decision making. And Suren Gupta is part of the problem along with Wilson and his cronies. They’re dinosaurs. They know nothing about how tech works or how the business needs to evolve. I mean for gods sake during lockdown they would fly concierge out to Wilson’s house to set up zoom for him to do town halls and then he would do them drunk. The writings on the wall and a RIFF is imminent.

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Post ID: @1rfm+1ecfqOyg

@1vvo+1ecfqOyg nothing stopping you from becoming a software engineer and getting some of the cash

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Post ID: @1yln+1ecfqOyg

Less projects = less project managers. PM's already have a tough job as the go between the competing interests of the business and engineers. Get your PMP and brush up those resumes.

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Post ID: @1lwb+1ecfqOyg

Such bu-----t. Giving the bozos in ATSV more money while the rest of us worry if we're even going to have a job in a month

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Post ID: @1vvo+1ecfqOyg

So they mentioned better compensation to attract and keep talent on the call today. Does anyone know how this will work? Is it just for new hires? They didn't really elaborate

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Post ID: @1jkb+1ecfqOyg

That is Transformative Growth speak for ATSV. They are cutting out a lot of the menial projects that keep a lot of us busy and employed. That equals less of us needed. Same phrases were used for claims and when they reduced regions to zones and not long after we all know what happened there. I am not feeling too good about this.

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Post ID: @1aod+1ecfqOyg

"Technology decisions will no longer be made by non-tech leadership."

As an engineer, that is music to my ears

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Post ID: @1ndo+1ecfqOyg

The big changes I saw included:

  • Requiring new projects to be associated to some sort of business value.
  • Throwing out low value projects.
  • Holding leadership accountable to delivering on high business value items.
  • Shifting ATSV to a more engineer oriented department (70% engineers)
  • Pay increases for ATSV in hopes of retaining talent.
  • Increased focus on continued learning (expected to spend 20% of time on learning)
  • Technology decisions will no longer be made by non-tech leadership.
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Post ID: @1roy+1ecfqOyg

@ydv+1ecfqOyg

You mean to tell me that changing your requirements/scope 200 times over the course of development while trying to pressure the dev team to revise their estimates down (while you know jack sh-t about software development) didn't work out well for you? Color me shocked!

Also nobody worth their salt in ATSV feels threatened in the slightest in regards to job security or performance. We have actual in-demand skill sets and could find new jobs inside a week if we wanted to

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Post ID: @1xgq+1ecfqOyg

...and, right off the bat we get the traditional "no can do" from a member of ATSV.

You're all in for a rude awakening if you leave Allstate and go to work for almost any other company where your inflated cost estimates and ridiculously long timelines (which you never hit) won't fly.

Maybe "outcome based" means you won't get credit anymore for just showing up and traveling in packs from meeting to meeting.

...or maybe it just means it's all going to Northern Ireland...

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Post ID: @ydv+1ecfqOyg

Hopefully it means that the business actually needs to demonstrate the business value of projects they want development teams to work on before the work actually starts.

No more tying up the already understaffed dev teams under ATSV with frivolous pet projects that provide no actual value and only serve to pad out some project managers year-end review.

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