Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

@1phz+1m5urGW7

No, the hacks in NYC that joined the company 10 minutes ago are the ones that need to leave, and they will. Collectively we built this company and make billions/quarter, not them. Do we have issues? Sure, which almost always start with stupid execs making/enforcing stupid decisions. 8 is Great wasn't a teller's idea, and RTO isn't an admin workers idea. Just BS from the top coming from id--ts that will run off to destroy another company soon enough. We can outlast them. Viva la Resistance.

I've never seen so many whine so hard about WF employees having jobs.

I've never seen so many people b*tch and complain about their jobs as much as you WF folks. If you don't like your job, do something about it. LEAVE!

@aob+1m5urGW7

Our current execs won't even be with the company 2 years from now. F them and their policy. They won't have anything to do with it.

Complains the tl;dr that wasn't a true tl;dr doesn't have enough information even though it's too long to be a tl;dr.

Reminds me of the types who hate the educational system, so don't send their kids to colleges, then get mad that other countries are eating their lunch on high-paying/high-skill jobs that their kids can't get.

@utg+1m5urGW7, you're delusional and therefore have chosen the third option.

@aob+1m5urGW7

Yes, just like how management was not going to back down on child labor or letting women/minorities into the workforce.

How did that work out for them?

No matter how ridiculous RTO is, management is not going to back down on it. We have to accept it (accept that's how it is, not be okay with it), move on, or go insane. I don't like any of the choices, but those are the choices.

F RTO FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER. And F anyone who supports it. That is all.

TL;DR

(@hzz your tldr is still way too long.)

If someone has a concise, cliffs notes version, that will make this thread more popular.

There's no way what's being proposed is so complicated that it takes multiple paragraphs to explain.

Every NYT article is loaded with verbal d i a r r h e a to fool its subscribers into thinking that they're really getting their money's worth by reading pages of text that could easily be summarized in a fraction of space without taking anything away from the article's point.

(Yes, I see the irony in my approaching-too-long post myself.)

I'd be willing to trade a slight pay cut for the option to work from home, maybe 10%.

This sums it up for me

“Companies have this idealized vision that when people are in the office they’re working all the time,” Bloom says. “It’s a mirage. They’re not really working that hard in the office, and they’re working pretty hard at home.”'

I worked way more when we were WFH full time. Probably 60-70 hours a week. I'd be online at 2am and see others also working. Now when I go into the office, I put in my 6 hours and leave and I don't think about work until the next day. I have no need to speak to anyone in my building. Literally every communication is via email, Skype, or Teams. I show up to keep my job, but I'm definitely not more productive with RTO.

WFH is a perk that trumps all others. Everyone is different, but if the options were WFH or free steaks and BJs every day at the office, I'd take WFH. I will never support or enforce the stupidity that is RTO. FNYC.

Choice quotes for the tl;dr types:

"More than 90 percent of workers who can do their jobs remotely want at least some flexibility in where they work now, according to Gallup, and the ADP Research Institute found in a survey that nearly two-thirds of employees said they would consider looking for another job if asked to return full time. "

"...just 3 percent of companies said they would fire employees who didn’t show up in the office, according to a 2022 survey from Gartner."

'Most return-to-office experts share Tsipursky’s antipathy toward mandates, especially ones requiring workers to come into the office five days a week. “Mandates are a nuke,” Zach Dunn, a founder of the hybrid-work-technology company Robin, told me, “when a much less severe thing will work.” Top-down rules from executives make employees feel disempowered, and as the labor market remains strong — with nearly two job openings for every unemployed person — white-collar workers know they don’t have to accept conditions that don’t suit their needs. Business leaders have also tended to struggle with enforcing mandates because they don’t know whether to actually discipline people for defying them. “I don’t think the mandates have power,” Dunn says. “No one knows if they’re working or not.”'

'Many chief executives assume that being in an office makes workers more productive. But research shows that hybrid work doesn’t typically harm productivity. More likely, it helps, as a recent paper indicated that people put 40 percent of the time they saved from cutting their commutes back into work. There’s also prepandemic research suggesting that remote workers take fewer breaks. Nick Bloom, a Stanford economist and hybrid-work expert, who has been studying work-from-home data since long before the pandemic, tends to emphasize this data on hybrid productivity when meeting with business leaders. “Companies have this idealized vision that when people are in the office they’re working all the time,” Bloom says. “It’s a mirage. They’re not really working that hard in the office, and they’re working pretty hard at home.”'