Thread regarding State Farm Insurance layoffs

Leader speaks out.

It makes me sick to think what the ET department has become and the rest of the company.

I'm not impacted, but I know many who are. Hard working, smart individuals who have skills that are needed in other parts of the ET, but Executives made sure they were cut. People couldn't apply for posting for other positions. That was forbidden. People who went to that area in November were cut as well. (Dirty move there. Knowing you are going to cut an area and allow people to move to it. I guess it is all about the numbers. )Why? For budget reasons.

I've told all my analyst to update their resumes and update their skills. We are probably next given some of the recent communications. Messages hidden in plain site.

Like the message several of my analysts contacted me on in their EIP email. "we are taking actions to improve profitability". Meaning more cuts. I know the leadership bonuses were impacted by the expense ratio, so the is the executives will be making more cuts.

The other message being communicated you need to be aware of, which a manger friend of my shared, is the message going out to the vendors.

  1. "Allows SF to put more focus on our key technologies." This means if you are not part of a strategic work effort, you are next. Don't think you are safe because you are a software engineer, they cut a lot in this first round. Think of areas like General Departments, your basic services can be handed off to an outside firm. No need for you.
  1. "addresses the recruiting and retention challenges". If SF thinks they had problem with recruiting talent, who is going to want to work for a company making cuts. With regards to retention, several people have already left. Look at all the directors and managers who have left since 2020. That number is growing. Ask yourself why would these people walk away from their bonuses, pension, and benefits? Why, because they had a glimpse into bad things are really are and the incompetence of executives.

Now you know why they condensed ET from 5 building down to two. When they are done, there won't be enough people to fill even two.

HCL is going to fail, why? Because the executive who put this in place sold them a pile of lies. Talking with people impacted, it is clear in the transition meetings that the executives are clueless to what the areas under them do.

The company is now being run on fear and intimidation. A fried of mine posted something on Yammer on the recent layoffs. HR called him and told him the post was removed. And if you post something like that again, you'll face disciplinary action.

This is warning the company is in bad shape. If they are doing this in a "record last two years" what are they going to do when things get tough and the auto grow trend goes the other direction?

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Post ID: @OP+1l0XQFoB

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It’s so odd that analyst in the company only care about how bad SF has handled their employees when it impacted them. Claims has had this going on forever, and no one cared, “if you don’t like it here go get another job”. Turn over and retention has always been a problem in claims, but now we need to worry because it’s the analyst…

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Post ID: @fgew+1l0XQFoB

There are lots of insur. comps that have outsourced the estimate writing to outside estimate-focused companies. Keep your skills up, and never get complacent because claims may end up becoming a glorified call center/paper pushers.

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Post ID: @encx+1l0XQFoB

State Farm brand is slowly being sold off.

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Post ID: @2mre+1l0XQFoB

@2kid-broken record tool. Loves to read his own print

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Post ID: @2qwl+1l0XQFoB

Highly paid joke roles there. Pathetic. Groupies run SF and they keep the bu-t kissers happy. $$$. They follow a narrative. Not real cyber security or data protection. AWS and cloud security practices are a false narrative and management are tools and followers. Data is not safe. Neither are consumers or policyholders. Or employee data.

Be cautious of those that are laces at Farm that are ex military. Biggest issues that brag there. Leadership is a false narrative and nepotism rules. Unethical and not smart technocrats. $$

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Post ID: @2ikd+1l0XQFoB

Somewhere along the line, most of you have completely failed to grasp that profitability is the basic purpose for a business. It's especially important for an insurance company that is required by law to have huge amounts of money on hand to pay claims (based upon expected losses and the number of policies on the books.) Losing money indefinitely in order to keep anybody feeling loved is simply not an option.
Doesn't mean it feels good....but that's how it works.

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Post ID: @1dcu+1l0XQFoB

It is true they are chartered and capitalized differently. They invest differently and have different underwriting strategy and risk appetite. But claims is a mirror image. Allstate is in the process of moving their claims operation to Pune India.

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Post ID: @1awu+1l0XQFoB

Allstate is literally driven by stockholders. Every decision they make concerning their company is driven by profitability to stockholders.

These two companies are not the same nor do they operate the same. There is a reason their employees come here and rarely the other way around.

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Post ID: @1lxp+1l0XQFoB

Claims is claims and Allstate and SF sell identical policies in identical states with nearly identical processes, From s claims standpoint they are indistinguishable.

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Post ID: @1vll+1l0XQFoB

State Farm isn’t Allstate.

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Post ID: @1vmc+1l0XQFoB

Go to the Allstate forum and read the posts. Then tell me if you think claims jobs are safe ?

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Post ID: @1ugb+1l0XQFoB

@1hth+1l0XQFoB

Fake news. I’m currently working an event in California. We hired 500+ staffers last year and of those 400+ have already quit. The staffers left are in demand and are never without work.

If a claims staffer desires a job they will always have one in claims. The high turnover rate and the nature of the job guarantees job security.

They have tried to replace people with ECRs. It doesn’t work because they don’t know how to write estimates, they don’t know the policy, and they don’t know procedures. It always ends with a staffer fixing ECRs mess.

Claims for the most part is safe.

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Post ID: @1ivz+1l0XQFoB

@1omq+1l0XQFoB
I would not say claims is gives jobs security, more like less risky for lay offs but i am pretty sure they like to keep claims understaffed and a revolving door as to keep costs down, if everyone is newish they don't have to pay much vs someone that has been there for a decade.

if you are close to retirement and with pension it might be worth sticking it out but anyone else should be looking to see what's out there just in case, think about it, if ECRs can and are already doing a big portion of claims work due to being understaffed internally what is stopping SF from pulling another HCL and giving claims a choice to go there or loose their job? you owe it to yourself to at least be on the look out for better opportunities, see the signs, read between the lines don't get caught unprepared.

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Post ID: @1hth+1l0XQFoB

As much as people hate claims it’s probably the only department with any type of job security. Go figure.

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Post ID: @1omq+1l0XQFoB

Good post OP. Thank you for such valuable and true facts!

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Post ID: @krp+1l0XQFoB

Boy do I wish I could say what I now on this site to confirm what is being said here is truth. I have known VP's and consultants. They are whacked. Seriously whacked. I've watched them under the influence and their reality comes out as to who they really are and believe me, they preach one thing when in reality they are very scary people and have families who have ZERO moral compass.

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Post ID: @mmi+1l0XQFoB

Notice they vote down to truth? They will soon learn the sellouts will have their day. It's coming.

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Post ID: @sjg+1l0XQFoB

Systems and directors and leadership & consultant puppets and talking heads and I more. They are id--ts all related to each other or went to high school together or sports and in each others glory days pockets. Fools and so called influencers. Globalists

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Post ID: @dnu+1l0XQFoB

All it takes is one whistleblower who can verify facts.

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Post ID: @hla+1l0XQFoB

TRUTH TO POWER

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