And are you going to fight back?
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Let’s just say location I was hired to commute to is under 25 min one way and now to this new hub location they invented it’s an hour and a half one way. They think this is fair?
"I don’t know how that’s legal."
I've been thinking about this as well. I was hired "100% remote" and that's in my offer letter. I took a pay cut coming over due to the convenience and savings of not having to commute.
I can understand if they presented the options of "sign this new contract or be laid off." I had considered getting advice from an attorney but sharpening my resume and reaching out to headhunters seems more prudent.
I would be ok going to the location I was hired for but not the hub location they are reassigning us to since it’s very far and dangerous. I don’t know how that’s legal. The agreement for this job was breached by the bank. This should be news worthy.
I don't know my hub location yet or whether I will get exempted somehow. Most likely location is 1.5 hours each way. Parking is over $350/mo last I checked. There is a metro train but crime is rampant on this line and there are frequent random stabbings and shootings from methed-out zombie tweaker crack-heads and random homeless freaks. NOPE, that is not viable.
They had the nerve to say they used reasonable distance for assigning RTO even if your commute is over 2 hours one way. In what world is that is reasonable? Anything over 45 min in my opinion is not reasonable commute.
I was hired as fully-remote before "covid." Like one poster above, my teammates are in other states, and like another poster I'm planning to just not come in and force their hand.
High performer year after year on one of the only competent teams in our line of work here - I can find better work elsewhere if it comes to that.
1 hour each way. I’ve been going in.
I wouldn't be so sure. They'll use anything as an excuse to lay off someone or not provide an adaquet raise/bonus. If you think data collected on Sapience won't be used against you to their benefit, you're naive and sorely mistaken.
@2lti+1uSKfM2R "Good luck only working 4 hours. With Sapience, they’re watching to make sure you’re spending 7+ “productive” hours per day. Insanity."
You CAN work only 4 hours as long as you are "collaborating" for the other 4 - isn't that what RTO is all about? While they may know about it with their cowardly spying tactics can you imagine these spineless managers bringing it up in a conversation? I think not.
Via public transportation it will be two hours ONE way with three bus transfers. We were instructed to write proposals to try and stay home based by upper management.
No good public transit options to the new location. I’ll spend 90 minutes, including a mile walk and multiple bus transfers (each way). Great way for the bank to tell me they don’t value me or my contribution.
Good luck only working 4 hours. With Sapience, they’re watching to make sure you’re spending 7+ “productive” hours per day. Insanity.
@1fpi+1uSKfM2R In my case it doesn’t have to be fully remote job. I will happily consider a decent distance 20 min drive 2-3 days a week in my personal assigned space that I don’t have to share. What I despise is the fact that they expect me to commute so far suddenly because they invented hub locations in large cities that I never signed up to commute to in a first place. I was hired to the office 20 min from my home and not to spend my life in traffic or train rides.
I don’t think the execs expect many to quit because of RTO. They know the job market stinks and there are no fully remote jobs that pay decent. Good luck finding fully remote with similar pay and benefits. Until the job market changes, hybrid is your only option in the finance or tech world. I know recent grads that were thrilled to get hybrid. Go figure
Many of us have to RTO to another location further away causing chaos and stress due to much longer commute times and that was not part of the agreement when we took the job. This bank breached our agreements.
I think people underestimate how difficult it is to find a remote job. More and more companies are going hybrid and a lot of the big banks are going to go back to 5 days in. Amazon just broke the seal on that. If you think finding a job is tough right now, finding remote is like a needle in a haystack. I came from a big bank a year or so ago, and I couldn’t find many remote roles, and the ones thag were there got hundreds of applicants
@1fdu+1uSKfM2R the executive worker class and minions committee will be very disappointed that you don't intend to leave LOL!!
BTW I agree with your sentiment that one should at least first test the waters in the market if not secure another job before quitting. RTO is a pain in the a$$ no doubt but given a choice between that and no income I'd gladly commute to work and put in my 4 hours (after subtracting 4 hours for "collaboration") of real work.
Around an hour each way. And no, I’m not quitting. I’m compensated well, have tons of PTO, decent benefits and I don’t hate my job. Have you seen the job market?
My hub is 20 miles away, which takes about 30 minutes of driving to reach.
All of my teammates are in other states, so I will be going into the office to meet with them on MS Teams.
I was classified as remote and I’m a top performer. This gig is clearly just a job and not a career. It has become blatantly obvious. The only healthy perspective is to care less, not invest extra effort, and stay/leave at my convenience.
Over an hour train commute to a danger zone or an hour drive each way without traffic but going to the city there is always traffic, accidents so add another 15 min or so. Oh and likely $50 daily parking. I want to scream cause where is the pay raise to cover this sh-t?
About an hour each way with traffic. No teammates in my area (they are spread all throughout the country), so plan to just ignore the RTO mandate and let them fire me if thats how they want to play it. 🖕
I'm lucky my commute is very short about 20 minutes.
But that is besides the point, I've been doing my job at a very high level for the past 5 years. I was already generally hybrid with no complaints from anybody before covid.
I literally no team members who work in my area and my managers in the midwest while I'm in California.
One hour, each way, without traffic. But there’s always traffic…
I haven't set foot in a bank in 5 years. My old bank now has a big copy machine for transactions in the lobby and no drive thtu. Only a security guard to protect the copy machine. Like buggy whips and toll takers, new world folks. Go to work in person as long as you can before they put a set of copy machines in your cubicle. It's saddly coming...
@tjo+1uSKfM2R Love it! That's exactly the way to respond to this madness. "Collaboration", "Company Culture" ... my a$$!
15 minutes to train station, hour train ride. I plan on commuting during business hours and will not stay in the office beyond an hour or two.
5 minute drive to the park and ride. 5 minute wait for the bus. 20 minutes to office
1 hour each way , 2 hours total. Some days, 3 hours total if traffic is bad.
About an hour each way...35ish miles. Not really worth the fight IMO, I can stick it out, and do bare minimum, leave early etc. senior leaders have made it clear they don't care
So I don't either.