So with today's announcement of two 'core days' in the office PLUS another one per week - does everyone think they are hoping folks will just quit and spare them further layoffs? Was kind of shocked to see them double down on in-office, which works when it works but MANY folks have no one locally to work with. What's up?
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For the sake of us, I just dug up previous messages submitted by a couple journalists (from a 10/24 thread). In case anyone can help with exposing this...
Hi, I'm a reporter at POLITICO, interested in hearing more about these recent layoffs. Email me at khooper@politico.com. Happy to provide my number on Signal as well.
Journalist here. I'm looking to speak with people affected by layoffs at Cigna and other insurers. Email me at kayla.webster@ft.com
When the layoffs were first happening, there were journalists who left their contact information on this website to reach out to. I am guessing no one contacted them and/or no one just had enough specific information to create an informed and reliable article about it. Cigna has made sure of that. Now if anyone is able to furnish specific, accurate information to the press (like numbers laid off, number of jobs pushed overseas, etc.) please do! But it seems so far we've only been able to piece information here and there.
"hope dozens of reporters and journalists stumble across the Cigna section of this website and do some nice write ups and articles exposing exactly what a "great place to work" this horrible company truly is."
Agreed. Anyone know any journalists to send this to?
I hope dozens of reporters and journalists stumble across the Cigna section of this website and do some nice write ups and articles exposing exactly what a "great place to work" this horrible company truly is. All these hushed up layoffs done in such a way as to avoid the PR. Well, until word gets out to the masses, nothing will improve or change. No consequences for treating their employees this way, so they have zero plans to course correct. That's clear.
“There are also mentions that if the new policy doesn’t go “well” that it will be adjusted to 4 or 5 days in office next.”
This is certainly the plan if they can’t get another 15% to quit because of the mandatory 3 days.
Attrition is the only goal.
@1noi+1s5Xn7Gy I am not a manager, but I have a very close, good relationship with my manager (who because of their awesomeness is the only reason I haven’t left Cigna yet). They think the policy is BS and is going to cause more attrition, and had encouraged me to “game” the system for the old policy, especially since managers could approve “short term” exceptions. But managers, at least in our org, have been told they are responsible for enforcing the new policy and that badge reports and connection to office LAN reports will be available. They have also been told if they do not enforce the policy they are subject to termination themselves. My manager is very unhappy and angry as am I and everyone on my team that are in office designated. There are also mentions that if the new policy doesn’t go “well” that it will be adjusted to 4 or 5 days in office next. Needless to say my manager understands why I am now looking to leave.
Fill in that post-town hall slido survey. You can fill it out from a non-cigna machine, as anonymous. Let them know how you feel. They may or may not read it here, but they will see it there.
Fu-k you cordani you fu--ing piece of sh-t. I have worked my a-s off for this company. Half assing it forever now. Fewer hours, 0 overtime, less effort
” They will be pulling reports in how long you are connected to the office LAN. If it isn’t 8 hours you will get written up. And fired if you keep doing it."
Are you a manager and this is what they've told you?
“ A lot of offices have badge scanners only upon entry so people can stay 10 minutes and leave.” They will be pulling reports in how long you are connected to the office LAN. If it isn’t 8 hours you will get written up. And fired if you keep doing it.
Well that’s quite a 180 from just a couple years ago. All that messy flexibility! Next will be scheduled lunch periods and assigned seating. Just like kids in elementary school.
That's very interesting, I did not know that about the change in HR leadership. Firing an employee advocate in lieu of a lawyer, wow. Cordani really is a tu-d who only cares about money.
This is also unenforceable in a fair manner as written. A lot of offices have badge scanners only upon entry so people can stay 10 minutes and leave. Other offices scan in and out. So good luck with all of this. The revolt will be hard.
Today’s town hall was painful. Kari Stevens (the new HR lead) is in way over her head and insulted our intelligence by claiming that the new in-office requirements were based on them “listening to employees.” No one is buying that. Cigna put a lawyer (!) with zero HR experience in charge after firing the former HR lead (Cindy Ryan) because she dared to advocate for flexible schedules for employees. This tells you everything you need to know about where this company is headed.
Cordani has become so insulated in a yes-man, sycophantic bubble that he is now completely out of touch. It’s really sad because I used to think he remained at least somewhat grounded in the world of regular people and cared about employees. Or maybe this is just who he always was and it’s just now been exposed. I used to be proud of Cigna (17 year employee) and would go above and beyond. Those days are over.
@1fzu+1s5Xn7Gy, I hear you . Just go draconian all at once . HR or Mgmt , why are you not going all in ? Why are you toying with people’s lives? It’s really hard to plan or visualize you life 6 months down th line . I can’t even do for a yearly lease nor can I take the risk of buying a home . It’s really scary
Yep , it does seem like that. Why don’t just take some drastic steps instead of playing with everyone’s emotions ? I would have more peace of mind if I didn’t have all this stress on a quarterly basis . Just make it 5 days workweek at once and see who quits. Or just fire people randomly and save costs.
It’s super annoying to keep anticipating all this. Can’t plan anything as every quarter they are planning to fire you. Just be done with it already 🤬
What the he-l has happened to this once amazing company? Shocked and disgusted that employees come last!
What if you were initially assigned to an office hundreds of mi away? What happens to those people?
“No clarity around FOW.” I actually completely disagree. Today’s townhall made FOW policies very clear, we just don’t like what they are
If you are independent and not in complete subservience to the company goal of maximizing shareholder eps and profits, the you are not wanted and we will make your life worse until you quit and we don’t have to pay you layoff severance. If you stay you are willing to put up with anything and we know we have you in our clutches. Reminds me of an abusive significant other I had. Leaving was the best thing I ever did.
@oxv+1s5Xn7Gy that is exactly my situation! I come in on Mondays and Fridays to avoid the distractions, and use Focus Rooms when needed. Won't have as much luck with that, when everyone is in office. I am really distressed.
I was hired as remote. When I was told I had to go into an office, I wasn't happy about it, but I dealt with it. It wasn't too bad. I was part of the first wave. The floor was pretty empty. I came in 2 1/2 days, a total of 20 hours which was the requirement at the time. My manager didn't care what days or times I was there. I am the only one on my team in the state I live in. I purposely come in on certain days so there's hardly no I e there. Then, came the second wave, they sat someone right next to me who is super loud in their calls, even with my ear buds in. They sat several people across from me. It's really annoying. So now they want everyone to come in on the same days??? I don't want to be around people!!!
"if you don’t like your job you don’t quit! You just go in every day and do it really half-assed.”
Future of work has always been primarily about 1 thing: Making you quit, so they save on laying you off.
This is sad. When they first rolled our FOW, it was all about flexibility. Our Leadership was clear - any business hours, any days, it doesn't matter.
And now this. I only have 2 employees (out of about 50) who are in an office. And they have no partners to "collaborate" with in those offices - very different lines of work.
Seems that way. Also may be some pressure from cities to earn those tax breaks by forcing people to the offices.
And constant turnover (in my area anyway) but yet they double down?? Wow.
Town halls adds up to stress now. No healthy org developments. Just stress. No clarity around FOW.