Thread regarding Honeywell International Inc. layoffs

Unfortunately this thread is still relevant today. Nothing has changed. Executives are still getting their extreme compensation, and employees and customers are still getting shafted. This company is a slow motion trainwreck.

GEORGE TOOK OVER SPS, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT?

Pay attention people

@hYvve Unfortunately for dedicated HON employees, the c@b@l at the top know exactly what they're doing. They are dismantling the company and selling it for parts, while they crow to Wall St. about how much overhead they're saving. They get to feast by starving the worker bees. It will not get better because that is their actual business model. Those who stick around will just get more of the same.

This thread is from 2019. Seems like a fresh one is in order, though the dynamics underlying it haven't changed much.

It's not just Intelligrated Division. It's across all of SPS. How can a division report a better than expected Q2 to investors and then turn around and tell employees we're doing bad enough to warrant mandatory 2 weeks of unpaid leave. In this job environment, it is short-sighted and reckless. I call on anyone at Honeywell that can to resign today. I hope there is enough pressure as a result to cripple the business. Upper Management should be ashamed because they brought us here through poor management and archaic business practices.

I have been swept up into a RIF within HCE. I was notified that my position is being eliminated because I work from home. Two weeks later everyone is working from home, but I am still being RIF-ed. All those years of loyal service mean nothing. Next, my pay raise is cancelled, which reduces my Severance pay. Then, I am notified that it is my privilege to take a couple of weeks off, without pay. It just gets better and better. What is next?

Sales incentive plans cut40 percent, bonuses and incentives that were given in 19 all been taken away, furloughs, technicians being fired, experienced sales people being released. Executive leadership with no industry knowledge!
Unrealistic expectations on project margins.
Service teams and install teams stabbing each other in the back by way of sales leaders wanting to claim credit in there LOB. Information not getting to the right levels to correct the situation.
Honeywell is a runaway train heading for a sharp turn, everyone sees it, nobody does anything about it.

I found out yesterday about this new furlough for two weeks in April. I have to go without money because this company can't spend money correctly. The furlough last year financially crippled me, I had excellent credit and now with this new furlough, I may have to file bankruptcy.

Mr president (trump) we need your help to stop this kind of greed that hurts the average american trying to make some money.
I am going to have to lose everything, and start all over, if that is even possible. It took me 12 years at my previous employer to have a decent savings saved up and spending a year and a half at Honeywell has taken it all away.

Every employee needs to go to their state senator about Honeywell’s unfair labor practices immediately! Bi-weekly furloughs are circumventing federal taxes we pay towards the unemployment insurance program act. They are scamming labor rights owed to us. No one can live off of a 50% pay cut while executives who make millions per year receive 10% decreases. The board of directors still receive their several million in bonuses this year.

• and I bet they will have their hands out for the government cheese. Employees, don't expect to get any of that cheese, only the top execs will be profiting from that.

Another furlough again. This happened last year for 2 weeks also. All while Honeywell is in the middle of a $10 billion stock buyback to boost shares because they have so much free cash flow.
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4331096-honeywells-buyback-program-is-powerful-catalyst-for-stock

At a time when the government is looking for ways to put money in peoples' hands, Honeywell is taking it away....what a bunch of mo–ns

HW HCE has also been furloughed as of 3:30 PM EST this afternoon. After being told days ago that we will not be getting our raises this year, we recieved a verbose, yet vaguely written email from the VP of HR stating "Because it is necessary to execute further cost reductions, unfortunately we must conduct an unpaid work leave for two weeks on a rotating basis beginning in April.." with no end date referenced. I hate this company.

It was the SPS HR VP - She said it during a SPS Town Hall during a Q&A session. I heard, after I left, that a group of engineers got T-Shirts made that said Non-Regrettable Personnel on them...

Which VP of HR said non-regrettable losses? Initials? Just goes to show what they think of employees.

Honestly, What did they expect? They chase away all of the proven sales team members by cutting commissions, they make it impossible for senior leadership to conduct day-to-day business without accounting or other people who don't know the business questioning them endlessly, then disrespect the very founders of the business by the VP of HR calling them non-regrettable losses.

The best sales people are now at the competition, they have driven off the experience and talent that the company was built on and now they are surprised that they are not doing well? Intelligrated was plus 30% the two previous years...PLUS 30 PERCENT! - No bonuses, 2.8% raises. You have to try to k–l a great company and that is just what Honeywell is doing. I wanted to stay at Intelligrated for the rest of my career and had been there for 7 years, but I finally had to pull the trigger and leave.

It is truly sad and unnecessary what Honeywell has done....

I am p-ss-d!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have an offer for HW - SPS engineering division. Should I be considering it or stay away?
I do not want to leave one stressed place and enter another one. Kindly advise.

I left Honeywell / Intelligrated a year ago and don't miss it. I continue to hear about my teammates jumping ship and moving to the competition. This was the best place to work and all of us would have stayed for years but the HONEYWELL train moved in and destroyed the culture Chris and Jim built. The customers are catching on to the talent that is walking out and it is the reason why sales are dipping again. By the way the competition loves HON since they are hiring all the talent!!! When are the executives of big companies going to realize that its not them and the accountants that make a business what it is? I wish that Toyota would have won the bid to purchase Intelligrated, they may have taken a long term approach to the organization and built it bigger and better.

@10xBrhGM-3usl, If you have no other offers, opportunities, or anything better to do, and are desperate... I mean flat broke desperate. Then take the job, otherwise run from this place as fast as you can. not worth the emotional damage, low pay, or the loss of skills you will encounter working for the company. To be sure, you will always be a candidate for RIF or lay off regardless of seniority! it will alway be about making the numbers.

• 3usl

Not all of HW is having a furlough or layoffs. Just SPS and due to terrible leadership.

If someone joins HW they MAY be safe for awhile as long as they aren't in SPS. But sooner or later they could be a candidate for layoff.

Considering the lower benefits that HW has and the annual 401k match (not pay period) it would definitely be better to go elsewhere IMO.

Should anyone join Honeywell at this time or better not to join?

Is Honeywell planning for a layoff? If it is so, a newly hired will be an easy target to layoff.

It looks like there are 6 down votes on the original post. Maybe the other 2 directors agree?

H1B is used to fill a NEED! How can you justify a need when you can't justify paying the citizens that hold the same position? Should be illegal to do what they are doing.

It also does not affect L1 visa holders.
They are the ones already employed by the company in their homeland, but working here in the US.
They are the ones bringing their families with them (they all get work permits, contrary to H1B visa holders).

Please see the difference in requirements:

There are two types of L1 visa:
L1-A is for managers and executives, who are either transferring to a US office, or coming into the US for the purposes of setting up a US office.
L1-B is for specialized employees, who have essential specialist skills or knowledge.
In either case, it is the employer (“petitioning employer”) that submits the visa application.
For both L1-A and L1-B, the employee must have worked for the corporation for one continuous twelve-month period in the previous 36 months.
The L1-A visa grants a maximum stay of up to 7 years. L1-B grants up to 5 years. However, if the employee has previously worked in the US under an H visa, that time may be deducted from the allowed stay.

H-1B Visa, Work Visa to USA
H-1B is an employment based, non-immigrant visa for temporary workers in America.
H-1B is an employer sponsored visa i.e. an employer must offer a job and petition for your H-1B visa with US immigration department.
This approved petition is a work permit allows you to get visa stamp and work in US for that employer.

Furlough excludes H1B workers. US citizens are paying the price.

@10xBrhGM-1fse,

what was the lesson, work the remaining people more hours... or just bring in H1-B workers?

Aerospace went through a bad run with furloughs in 2015 and 2016. When they were down 45% census at some sites they learned their lessons

@1ivj: according to the DOL's secretary E. Chao in 2006, a citizen can be displaced by a foreign worker for an H-1b non-dependent employer.....
see top of p.35 in the "DOL's strategic plan 2006-2011" doc shown here: https://www.scribd.com/document/1628441/Department-of-Labor-strat-plan-2006-2011

Meanwhile Vanderlande has been awarded one of Amazon's largest material handling projects to date, Aurhub at CVG. This is right in Intelligrated's back yard. Vanderlande is hiring for this today and will be hiring for it in Cincinnati and Marietta, GA well into 2020. More openings to come in Louisville soon as well.
https://vanderlande.wd3.myworkdayjobs.com/careers/2/refreshFacet/318c8bb6f553100021d223d9780d30be

To meet the numbers, there are only so many levers a senior leader can pull. They are expected to meet the numbers in spite of what might be the best for employees. Anyone on this site knows HON doesn't care about employees, only $$$. RIFs and Furloughs are popular options and as everyone knows, those levers are worn out. They are pulled every time to show profit and to immediately reduce operating expenses. In the background performance PIPs and unwanted attrition move salaries to Emerging Regions (ER). The belt is constantly tightened for $$$. Intelligrated was the bright spot in the SPS portfolio and still is, but every acquisition ultimately succumbs to the HON money engine. Is anyone truly happy/satisfied in a career at HON? You either join the money train, drink #futureshaper Kool-Aid and fund HIPAC OR find something more fulfilling.

How is that legal Youngir? Isn't the point of the H1 program to fill positions where there is a lack of qualifying US citizens to fill the positions? Seems to me this giving them an unfair advantage over US citizens.

I hear a lot of grumbling that this will be a good week to find a new job...Intelligrated has been the bread and butter of SPS since they bought us. Now they have a weak quarter in the SBG and it’s a kick in the crotch...not that I mind a week off, I could use a week at home or take a vacation. My life work balance is non-existent anyway. 10-14 hours a day for a couple of weeks and then a day off...then back at it. When they charge a couple hundred an hour it seems silly to loose 16000 to save $1500

Dont forget this only affects non-H1B visa holders.