I did an advanced search on Teamworks for City=Remote and State=Mine, saw a fton of remote folks.
I mean, if I have to RTO there's no way these many people have exceptions. This is bs
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They want everyone back in the office yet continue to push for more hires in India and the Phillipines.
Hypocrisy much??
Dang, some are really pi---d they had to go back to the office after Covid. The biggest difference between us remote workers and you is that we don't care if we get laid off. Been remote since 2015 and here long enough for an excellent severance which will give me more than enough time to find something else. Yay me! Boo you!
It's a matter of time before the economic reality sets in and the competition realizes that wasting money on buildings is not sustainable. Once that happens, WF will adapt or perish. Either way, we won the Great RTO War in the end.
There are still some remote positions that need to be remote. Such as some in audit or sales positions where they travel all over.
I am in a remote position, which I’ve had over 10 years. I don’t need to be in an office to complete my work. But that doesn’t mean they won’t rescind and force me into an office. The company is always reevaluating and is working to push more and more into the office because they think they have better control of the people and work completed. I think it is a matter of time and my position will be made to report to a main hub as well. They are just going after the “low hanging fruit “ so to speak. The rest of us will be impacted soon enough, or just replaced with AI.
- it up buttercup.
Agreed, how do they expect me to homeschool my kids if i’m not at home!!!
Stop whining clown. There are actually realistic reasons for some to be fully remote
That's the solution to excess severance costs. Arbitrarily force employees to move elsewhere or resign. All they have to do is merry-go-round the hubs and everyone will "resign". Think you're already in the hub for your group and all is good? Doesn't matter, tomorrow they can say your hub is now halfway across the country. Not willing to stop everything and move at your own expense for a company that hates you? Oh, I guess that means you "resign" then. 😐
This company wants to fire us. All of us. Every action they take proves it. FHY.
CCAR favors remote employees as they are manager's favorites. Anyone in a hub is not treated well so that they can keep the non hub flunkies.
I know a number of people on the left coast who were called into a meeting by their management and told to pick from a list of approved locations in other states further east or be laid off in the coming weeks. Gonna be a blood bath on the coming weeks
I don't know how to say this, but I'm pretty sure that I traveled back in time to get here.
I'll provide updates as I'm able to.
Did you ever consider that they might have shut down those remote employees building. Then labeled them as remote pending layoff? Just because you are in one office in the state doesn't mean an entire state didn't at one time have another office that they closed. This is happening and because the still existing office is not considered a hub for that business group, they won't let them go into the office even if they wanted to.
boo hoo. Perhaps you are not in a job where remote work is a necessary requirement to accomplish the job. There are numerous examples of this in IT where remote makes perfect sense. One cannot put a square peg in a round hole as our fine senior executives, and underlings, believe.
It's not a "return" and they aren't going "back" anywhere. I get it, you're forced to operate from a distraction filled S hole office space, but let's try to focus and choose our words carefully.
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You sound just like a colleague who has a grandiose opinion of herself, thinks she knows more than everyone else and lives 2 miles from a hub.
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Haha “superior results” is completely BS subjectivity! A remote employee exception has ZERO to do with this made us drivel. It CAN be legitimately based upon role - but results are fluid and subjective.
I know of several cases where HR made a mistake and mapped folks as remote who are near a hub location. (Under the threshold of miles.) They were essentially told to keep doing what they were doing and not bring attention to it.
Of course it's unfair, but I don't blame them for not mentioning it. It's hard to say what I would do in that situation. Given the rumors around remote, it's not necessarily a good spot for them to be in. But going into the office is just such a needless waste of time. It would be a hard decision to make.
It will be interesting to see what happens if they end up on a lay-off list because they're listed as remote. I wonder if they'll be allowed to get themselves off the list by going to the office or if they'll be displaced. When they did the last round of remote people displacements, they did give people options to move. So maybe that will save them because they're by an approved hub location and they can just opt for that location.
Don’t worry, most remote employees will be coming back to the office next year. But also remember that we have a lot of legit remote employees in the field to support branches, or are in other customer-facing roles.
Have you considered people are remote because of superior results???? You are an id--t. I’ve been here 27 years and very good at my job. I was remote for 4 years well before covid and I have to come in. I’m told no exceptions yet almost everyday I’m on a call with someone who shows remote. This post is 100 percent accurate .
Life is not fair. Have you also considered there may be exceptions for employees who provide consistent superior results? Instead of doing searches for ghosts and posting here how about do your job.
Awwwwwww, Boo Hoo for you Cup Cake!
The double standards are seen by Hudson Yards as a benefit. They pi-s people off, and pi---d off people tend to be more likely to quit, and quitting is exactly what they want people doing.
It's only one step on their journey to eliminate all domestic workers though. The remotes will go, then the non-hubbers, then the "not the right kind of hubbers" and then they start shutting down hubs, and in the final stroke all non-executive roles in the US are contracted or outsourced and it's all over. The BoD and OCs goal is automation/outsource/contractors doing everything and earning so the profits, so all they have to do is sit in their ivory tower office and collect massive salaries.
#support diversity
If you are in a niche area where they need the knowledge you have otherwise you are dispensable
#hub location strategy EXCEPTIONS
Remote person’s big promotion announced in my line of business!
I know you'll get hate for your post, OP, but i totally agree.
Do t worry. Remote people are not long for this place
there are people in my same city that make more money than me, such a double standard
I have friends who show remote in teamworks who I see in the office. It’s not always accurate.
Yup. I do this when I’m bored at the office too. It’s a 👋🏻 in the 🧔🏽♀️