It’s been a bit too quiet on the subject for my taste. Does anybody know if something is coming, or am I just being my usual paranoid self?
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@1n0 must be HCL ha ha
No one can force you to move to another city. That is called constructive dismissal, and you would be entitled to severance if you don’t want to move. However, if they give you advanced notice, eg one year, that your job is moving to another location then that is called a working notice and the severance would be significantly less or even non existent depending in your tenure and also the length of the notice period.
Working notice comes with many risks for the company.
If you have long tenure there is a chance that the notice period would be shorter than the severance you would be entitled to. Everyone’s case is different. Either way consult legal advice.
Severance or notice in Alberta are both in weeks based off length of employment. They don't need to do both, it can be one or the other for one. For two in Alberta it's based off what you would have made during the notice time. There are ways to sc--w you over that you haven't dreamed of.
Look at ESC in Calgary in 2021/2022 - they shut down the group, forced people to uproot and move to sites to be “co-located”, didn’t offer severance.
Two words: working notice. Google it. The company can provide advance notice of massive layoffs instead of severance payments. In theory the company could say we're moving to Edmonton in July with or without you. The notice period between July oand the date we're told could offset any severance owed. It's a fantastic way for the company to avoid paying everybody severance.
@1mp seems like you are commenting from India and dont understand Alberta labour law
@1mp It is mandated by law. By both statutory and case law.
@1mh it's not mandated by law and just because it has been done in the past, doesn't mean it has to be done or will be done. Understand that concept? They don't need the space, or the extra overhead. They could rent a space downtown, far cheaper and have everything they need and cut who they don't.
@1m2 you clearly know nothing about the industry standard within the oil and gas industry. If people’s positions were moved and an employee chose not to move, severance would be offered.
The rumour of roles moving out of Calgary is crazy. The whole reason there is head offices is it creates efficiencies and cost savings over employees being disbursed all over the place.
@1ks you do not need to provide ample notice or severance lol. You guys are living in a dream world.
@1kd For sure, they are not going to move overnight. They will provide ample notice
@1jy
Makes no sense. You still have to provide severance. You can’t force people to move. Unless they provide a very long notice. Like year and a half or more
@1h1 the attrition is the business driver
@1h1 just ask EMTEC, they are losing critical people by closing Clinton and Sarnia
Why would you risk significant attrition of critical functions to move to Downtown Edmonton? What’s the business driver?
@1ej in corporate functions, think new EPO orgs.
@1ct Enbridge building downtown
@1ct From who? or what org?
Well I have heard that some people have been unofficially told to start having discussions with their family about whether to move to Edm or take a package….
Watch for something coming September 29. That’s when we find out.
Exploration in upstream splitting off from operations. EMPS and Upstream operations being combined to one org is the rumor.
Some type of restructuring probably with potential layoffs. The UW campaign was pushed ahead to get it "out of the way" before all this happens...
Yup, EM is buying out IOL, so most corporate functions are affected. Good luck!