Ohio is putting the whole Medicaid HCS team on a PIP and taking away our AWS. CMs and supervisors. Feels like they’re trying to thin out the herd with this decision. It’s like a slap in the face. They said we aren’t at the required caseload size but acted like it was fine until giving us 30 days to accomplish something impossible, especially when they don’t give us the tools to succeed. How is it a good idea to pi-s off an entire department?
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It’s the holidays and Molina is doing its usual holiday present! Getting rid of good people!! Blink your eyes and they are gone! Happens before Christmas every year!!
Mmm. Follow your feckless leader.
@1cp Molina has a history of cutting/laying off some hard working people. There have been several instances since Project Nickel where some really good employees are cut and we still have some that may not be doing as good a job. It’s like they draw straws. Doesn’t seem to go by anything, seniority, salary, audit scores, etc.
@1c8 That is certainly a possibility. Another just as likely possibility is that management doesn’t pick and choose who is let go and just start chopping whole teams, regardless of who is “lazy” or not. Those who are left will take on more work with more stress and no pay increase.
@16q Do the math. In my health plan 1/4 of all the people in my state will lose their Medicaid. A lot of them are children. And since our enrollment numbers are going to go down Molina won’t need as many staff. Less members mean we don’t need as many CMs to talk to them. Or as many UMs to process requests. With less staff you don’t need as many managers and even corporate will have less to do. They are already trying to use AI to get rid of us. Why isn’t anyone realizing how bad this is?
@16q have u seen the stock price? were all gonna need saving cuz wen jz overreacts and starts layoffs again they will do it based on what saves them most money not who the best employee is
@zx I’m sorry. I thought you were smart enough to realize that lazy staff are the managers fault. A union wouldn’t be a problem if the stupid leaders didn’t hire and keep lazy staff. You are definitely one of the Ohio folks.
@zn where did I say I was a manager? Or anything about managers? We were talking about unions. The unions would only further protect against the bad managers.
@vx You do realize that if staff are lazy and leaders don’t get them up to speed or fire them, then it’s still the fault of the leaders for not hiring good staff or keeping staff they shouldn’t, right?
Please, no union. We have enough lazy arses to keep us worker bees busy trying to motivate them while this ship sinks faster than the queen mary. I’m not one of the managers on here and I still work here and let me tell you we have some incompetent lazy teammates across the system. I will say that
We need to unionize and get this to the news
IS ANY OF THIS RELATED TO MY CARE CM IN LTSS. MOLINA JUST GOT NOTICE THAT WE WILL BE COVERED IN ALL 88 COUNTIES IN OHIO. DOES ANYONE HAVE INFORMATION ON THIS
@ag then maybe share what you know? Isn’t that the entire point of this website- to help others so we can prepare and try to salvage our careers?
@sp That person is someone who previously got laid off and is mad and likes to hang around and cause trouble. They act like they are really a manager but really they are a loser who can’t find another job and keeps coming back here to be a je-k.
@hd you must be one of the shtty Molina leaders who can’t run a department successfully 😂 or just an as$ kisser who will get yours when your name is up on the chopping block. Good luck to you, and I hope you’re met with the same reason and empathy you have put out here to your coworkers. Also, maybe read responses before posting d-mb sht and see that entire departments are experiencing this.
@hd then pay attention to your work force and discipline those individuals instead of alienating everyone. I for one will no longer be going above and beyond. I’ll do the job I was hired to do and that’s it.
@ey It is always the incompetent manager who needs to be held accountable for sure! I completely agree. After all, if we were managed properly, then we wouldn’t find ourselves in this mess and lose good front line workers as the consequence. Unfortunately, it will be the people we serve, our members, who will lose the most.
Team- we need to get back to work and stop the finger pointing. Do the job you were hired for and stop sitting around talking about your incompetent manager and how the team went from hero to zero in 5mins. I know we have some good people but we also have a ton of lazy fluffy fat a*ses who contribute to this mess. The management is finally taking action!
@ey please, go on and explain to me how an entire department (especially one that corporate has previously lauded) suddenly performs SO poorly that every single person the that department is put on a PIP and it NOT be managements’ fault. How in every town hall we were told we’ve already met, or we’re well on the way, to meeting all metrics. Then one day not only we aren’t, but we need to be punished??? Explain how that’s every single IC’s fault while the managers remain blameless???
@ey sorry, but when an entire department is being given this, the problem IS management. Some of us are digging up proof of being told one thing and then it suddenly not being enough. When performance reviews are “meets expectations” or we are told we are on track and then have the rug pulled out from under us. Hopefully as a manager you have your proof as well because many of us won’t just take this lying down. I will take accountability for my actions always but I won’t take whatever cr-p you people try to roll downhill.
It’s always the incompetent manager….
Start taking some responsibilities for your actions folks.
@dk I agree with every word you said. I wish we had an HR we could trust also many complaints nothing done.
I would like to make a retraction the revenue for 2024 was 41 B not 70 as I reported. Sorry
@da I don’t think anyone is particularly upset that they’re taking away the AWS, it’s the injustice of the PIP situation that has everyone up in arms. Especially, considering on our annual performance reviews, the metrics were met or exceeded with the same caseload numbers. Suddenly, caseload numbers are so egregiously low that we’re getting immediate performance improvement plans. Extremely bad faith and looks terrible on Molina in general and has alienated the entire workforce. They are risking the best qualified, most productive employees will leaving because of this. Anyone who stays is going to definitely hold a grudge. I have always thought that the state management of Molina was the least competentI have personally ever worked for, but this set of record for sure.
@db I believe so. Check the policy. We are going to see some larger scale directives such as this outside of what is being discussed here. Buckle up all!
Does anyone know if they put us on a PIP, are they able to deny us severance if they lay us off?
I mean no disrespect when I say this but if you read the AWS policy it does state they can do this. If our caseload goes low and something else I can't remember the whole thing. Now do I agree with what or how they did this.
HE-L NO!!! I agree we need lists that actually are correct. This is setting us all up for failure. AND they did this right before we are supposed to answer questions about the best place to work. LMAO ! ! Care about your employees not money. Molina used to be more than a business when the Molina brothers had it. But once it changed leadership it's all about money. So we have some perks yes, but for them to punish teams right away with no warning is crazy. The more you take care of your employees the better employees will become and have satisfaction in their job. Oh and the audits are ridiculous and not objective depends on who is auditing you. People have become literally sick over these. I have worked for this company for years and this is the worst I've seen it. It's for the members it's for the members no its not it's about money. Now I feel front line staff care about the members. Leadership doesn't care. Their revenue was close to 70billion I think. Trying to remember. Joe Z is the No. 1 paid CEO in Healthcare.
Exactly! They are not will employer I get that but don't make people look as though it's their fault. I see a class action lawsuit coming their way. And when everybody is on a pip in that department that only looks bad for molina! Thoughts on whether or not it's legal to do this?
@d4 same here with consistently high audit scores, never a disciplinary action (here or any other job since I was a teenager), nothing. And now suddenly this.
My team was also told that we will lose AWS in 30 days, and will be written up in 90 days. A write up does NOT look good for future employment. They made us all shave down our caseload numbers and even took some entire caseloads from care managers. And now, a few months later, they’re punishing all of us for not having required caseload sizes. Yes you read that right- they took our caseloads and are now punishing us for not having them. The members they give us to call don’t answer or don’t need our services. They are going step by step to get people to leave and taking AWS is the first step. Then writing up is next. Then it’ll be going back to the office. By then a lot of people will have already left. What they’re doing is wrong, wrong, wrong and this will not be a good look for Molina among other MHOs. Shame to our plan president, our management, and our leaders. They have failed us and have failed Molina members.
@d3 same here. Consistently good audit scores, liked by members and other staff. Never had a single disciplinary strike in my whole career. They said they are working on communication with us based on survey results and then sprung this on us with 30 days to accomplish something impossible. This is not the way to make us work harder. Molina is going downhill fast.
I'm trying to figure out if this is legal. If they want to lay us off, just lay us off. Don't make my good name look bad when I've never in my life had a corrective action!
Do spill please @ag
@ag are you in the know? Would love to hear your thoughts.
I agree but unfortunately there is a lot more across the org coming down the pipe. Those who know…know.