I was a CSE IN Enterprise sales and was layed off from AT&T in July. To say that the sales compensation plan for 2020 was anything but stellar is an understatement. I took my settlement money and bowed out from this God awful company with professionalism and grace. Now here it is five months later AT&T is stating I was overpaid commission in 2020 and have to pay it back! Some $800!
AT&T get real. That is an awful way to come after a layed off employee!
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@1aou+18D8t2Wb and anyone that gave him/her a "thumbs up".
OK. You got me. I went out of my way to ensure that I had exactly the right amount of sand in the return box to equal the weight of the iPad that I sent back. And took time to take pictures just so I could fool folks into believing I was honest. And... As if the impact to me and my family of being surplused wasn't dramatic enough; I chose to steal an iPad to complicate our lives. Really, Folks? Some of you need to get a grip. Regardless, Happy New Year and Best Wishes to ALL of you in 2021.
"A normal person wouldn't have had photos of himself "putting [the ipad] in the return box""
Actually, yes, a "normal" person at this company would do that, because of lack of mutual trust.
I am an active employee. Every 3 years, I am required to get a new laptop and return the old one. I take pictures of the box, packing materials, and the old laptop being placed into the box and sealed, just in case there is a question. I have never had a problem myself, but some of my coworkers have been accused of not returning the old laptop. It was probably just clerical error at the receiving depot, but documentation and pictures proved valuable in resolving the issue.
I hope anyone even considering working for this company comes to this site and reads discussions like this one.
This company is the scum of the earth. The lowest, slimiest, stankyest layer.
The way this company treats its employees is beyond reprehensible.
I agree with OP, happened to me as well. I requested the calculation, which of course showed a spreadsheet with the number. But the source data of the results is no longer accessible, so you have no way of verifying anything. As it stood, I had saved the results report before I left, which showed better attainment. Of course, as always, the company still backdates and back-posts credits against results, which will cause the shortcoming, even after you left. In August, a lot of modules were realigned, so it is possible that they threw all the bad credits against July results to clear the deck.
The notification I received also immediately threatened to send the case to an outside collections agency if I didn't pay. Which, of course, would ruin your credit, and thus your chances of getting a job somewhere else. To me, that crossed the line of ethical behavior. Never mind the fact that before I left, YTD results were good, and all of the sudden you're in the hole for a month that you didn't even have a way to impact or change results. Of course by now, you can't prove anything any more, because they will deny access to the data, and it is most likely already changed.
I decided to pay up, even though I call BS on all of it, because I refuse to let this company ruin my excellent credit and chances for another good job.
So beware about dragging attorneys into this. Even if you win, it will be years of litigation while they ruin your credit.
For a while, I was considering to reapply for some positions, but this last example of unethical shenanigans convinced me that this company can kiss my heiny. I will keep my excellent credit and go be happy somewhere else. While the amount was substantial, it is still not worth ruining a lifetime of future earnings; I will make this up in no time.
If they're this desperate for cash, and resort to such actions, it says more about the company's executives than the quality of its employees.
Those of you offering mo–nic, ignorant , unprofessional, irresponsible advice in an attempt to stiff the corporation as if this issue isn’t common and T hasn’t the resources to track you down until you pay your debt )they do) are sad and ill advised.
This nonsense about creating drama in an attempt to avoid pay back of true up compensation is just that...drama. Grow up and stop posting imbecilic suggestions.
“Overpaying” and then calling to get money back is routine at att- had a coworker who while at hospice (yes hospice) his wife got a call from att that they had overpaid his pension and needed the money back.
Pretty obvious with the way you worded it that you just slipped some lead or metal weight in the ipad box if and when you returned it. Otherwise you would have said you returned the iPad as instructed.
A normal person wouldn't have had photos of himself "putting [the ipad] in the return box" (which doesn't show anything) nor gone on about the returned parcel weighing what an ipad should weigh.
You're a thief. If it makes you feel good that you got one over on AT&T, then good for you. But you should be prosecuted for theft.
I was also surplused in July. In late October, I got a call from my previous Director stating that I had failed to return my iPad to the Depot in Tennessee. Sent him pictures of me placing it in the return box that was provided. Provided the shipping receipt with package weight to show that it was sent. Then in November, he calls again to tell me that my termination status was being changed to "not rehireable" due to theft of company property. AT&T is, indeed, a mismanaged cesspool where the lowest IQ people advance the farthest. What a sad joke.
Tell them to cruise! Drag it out and they will eventually realize it is not worth the legal fight and will drop.
Remember they are a bunch mo–ns.
I tought scum T would turn these sorts of things over to a even scummer collection's agency to badger you do death!
This is not the only underhanded treatment that T doles out. You should see what T does to dying employees that are out on disability!
T is just a $hithole cesspool overflowing septic tank!
"Don't respond. You can win if you ignore them. But you will lose if you fight them."
This is the dumbest advice I have seen. IF you ignore them you probably will get served. If you get served you will end up hiring an attorney anyway and you will lose the upper hand.
Call your local county's Bar Association to get a free consultation and get advised on the best approach.
Good luck not Paying that $800 back, I watched AT&T pursue employees for fraudulent claims, AT&T would drag it out till the plaintiff ran out of their life savings and now living under a bridge. It was entertaining.
Just pay the $800 and move on. You aren't smart enough to fight AT&T.
"Hire a good lawyer who will fight for your right to receive reimbursement for your legal fees and court costs. Have your attorney drag it our for as long as he or she can. Change your phone number and cancel all contact with the company. You say they billed you for $800? Wonder how much an AT&T Corporate Attorney will burn in billable hours trying to collect $800? Treat them the same way they are treating you."
Wrong. AT&T will spend $40,000 to get that $800 back. Say nothing. Don't respond. You can win if you ignore them. But you will lose if you fight them.
Hire a good lawyer who will fight for your right to receive reimbursement for your legal fees and court costs. Have your attorney drag it our for as long as he or she can. Change your phone number and cancel all contact with the company. You say they billed you for $800? Wonder how much an AT&T Corporate Attorney will burn in billable hours trying to collect $800? Treat them the same way they are treating you.
Dig deep and find commission dollars that you were under paid. Find a way to reduce the amount or eliminate it. The company will collect. Once you have your documentation offer it up if you have someone to speak with or get a lawyer to fight your fight. Good luck.
“Laid” off. Not “layed”.
You’re lucky that the money owed isn’t more. I learned a painful lesson more than 10 years ago when I was hit with a true up bill for $15,000. The customer walked 6 months into a wholesale multiyear ICB contract.....closed their doors, left employees in limbo. It was a crushing experience. That was my last venture in enterprise sales. The company will collect. They’ll work with you to pay off the debt. Never spend the commission money unless you know you can pay it back.
Tell them to go pound salt. Change your telephone number & email if they have it.
That's funny because when the owe you - it's like pulling teeth. You're lucky if you ever
get the refund.
Same....I had to pay $250.00
Pay it back, $1 per month for the next 800 months. You have that right. Send 100 pennies a month and watch how quickly they'll tell you your good you can stop paying.