Word has it that from Dec those not already claiming will be barred from entering EAP for OOK. Let’s hope the VP get cold feet.
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This is BS ! They are about to pick up 50 rigs
Benefits are not as good as used to be and they will try to terminate you right before probation period. Destroy your career! Try to avoid this scam
I retired in 2019, sure miss it.
@2qw downfall started with the IPO
I’m surprised people still care about this company. It’s a scam.
Payroll offices moved to Midra around 2010. It then became more difficult to talk to a US dollar payroll person. In the old days you could just walk in without an appointment and sit and talk to a real human.
When I joined Aramco in the 1990s the camp was nice but showing some wear and tear. Very few Saudis lived in Camp. Company policies were great and US expats generally enjoyed life. Layoffs were rare in the Upstream. All of the compensation policies for US dollar employees were grandfathered so we never saw any major change in our benefits while employed for over 20 years. A few things were adjusted. I think the downfall accelerated after the company combined the Dollar/sterling payroll and HR with everyone else and moved it to Midrange. The 2000s was a time the company hired a bunch of MBAs thinking they could improve the company and that seemed to only make it worse. I guess that making expat life worse must be a new policy and tradition in the company. But with the major oil company layoffs occurring in the USA you might be better off staying put till the business climate improves or learn new skills.
@2p2 It's the lies and deceit that keep the company afloat. No shame.
I just saw a new Aramco recruitment ad o the i terwebs. The BS and lies about growing your career, carrer ad advancement opportunities, excellent camp facilities and housing, work life balance, travel opportunities..and on and on. These people have no shame. Unfreakingreal..
I am a recent joiner and definitely have been sold a different picture than reality. I read plenty on this board, but things are worse than pictured in a lot of aspects. Compensation is not bad but I know not the same as the past. I don’t see myself retiring from a camp that’s falling apart. With continuing cuts I will leave as soon as math doesn’t work anymore. Definitely can’t stay more than 3years total or my market value will go down the drain. If EAP gets cutdown, I am out of here fast. My kids can get much better education in good school district in US compared to ASD with much better connection to US colleges.
What I don’t quite understand is why Aramco keeps bringing expats if they don’t need them? My take is that older management sees the need, but youngsters want to show superiority, their readiness for 2030. So there is a balance, by bringing inexperienced or unqualified expats to show they are ready to take over. But why bring the experienced ones?
Hits the nail on head. I see the two types of expats left enjoying the degrading lifestyle...
The dwindling number of old timers hanging-on for the next year or two until retirement. Largely people from industry that came here to make buck, but also to do an honest days work. These are the people who ran the interest groups, societies in their free time and kept the community alive, its no coincidence that these are now moribund. Management actively seeking ways to surplus these people.
The rest. A motley bunch, mostly with no O&G experience from outside the USA, either here by duress, mistake, or very desperate - think debts to pay, unemployed, divorced, plastic passports, TWN, fraudulent resumes, the 'one more year brigade' etc...These people usually are the sycophant forehead-bruiser type (yes sir mr. Thobe) and will cling on for dear life!
Fact: Aramco management simply sees no strategic value in having a vibrant expat community, with expats prepared to challenge decisions (even if for the good of the company!), its all about cutting costs to the bone and hiring A.s slickers.
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No need for EAP any longer. Plenty of potential replacement employees for those who would quit over losing it anyway is the new view. Notice over the years how subtly and slowly the ex-pat life and package has been eroded, all without mass quitting and yet continuous layoff trickles. Those who choose to stay are either too close to their number to quit now, or, simply have no other prospects due to being non-competitive in the job market and will simply be layed off eventually.
dont think EAP will be eliminated all together but maybe the amount company pays?
Damned place
That will be the time to resign then