You can tell the old time Dell guys in this string. I worked for Dell for six years, six years too long. It k–led my career in many ways and was a time of constant turmoil and being treated like a barnyard animal by Dell legacy AE's that can't sell value if their lives depended on it. Being a specialist with a pedigree from real tech companies like Cisco, EMC, Oracle and Aruba I will state flatly that the average Dell AE and SE could not compete in most cases. Dell is NOT a tech company , Dell is a company that acquired some tech and then tried to force it into the commodity hive mind of a legacy laptop maker. Think on that. Do the folks from EMC and VMware have ego's???? Yes and they should they come from high level sales backgrounds where you don't walk through the door , drop your pants and try to win only on price and a smile as with Dell. Management is tougher, demands of excellence higher and rewards were at one time better. VMware is a great company but showing its age... if it allowed Dell to force it to become like Dell it would disappear in ten years. So before legacy Dell folks whine go work at a truly great company, a true high tech company not a giant Fry's Warehouse and then point fingers.