Thread regarding Ford layoffs

Don't expect a long-term job at Ford

Those days are long-gone, no matter how hard you work and the skills you acquire/retain. You will make too much money and they will get rid of you for cheaper works. Sickening, but this is our world now.

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I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect a lifetime job just because you show up most days. But if you’re willing to give them 110%, keep current skills and give consistent results while being a positive force you shouldn’t have to worry about losing your job. I know, those days are gone.

It’s sad. I always respected how ford employees were so devoted to the company. They bleed blue and never had any complaints about their work or the company. Those days are also gone. I suppose they finally got the culture change they were after.

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Post ID: @4edf+ZF1vuAz

Ford is interviewing agency engineers to replace those SRD'd.

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Post ID: @3xum+ZF1vuAz

I feel sorry for the young graduates trying to get a stable job. When I was a kid, you earned your degrees, hired into a good company, and stayed until you were ready to retire. Now, you must jump jobs for the bucks. This system is not going to work long-term. And we wonder why the country debt is so high.

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Post ID: @2sid+ZF1vuAz

Job stability is a relative term. Does Ford offer greater job stability than the Trump white house - why yes it does. Does it offer as much stability as other large companies and tech companies - nope. Other large tech companies and industries offer more stable career tracks and higher salaries (along with greater Bennies) than Ford.

You work at Ford for more than 10 years or top out at your pay scale - unless you get promoted to an higher than LL4 or have some very unusual demographic characteristics, you get let go and replaced with a new, sleeker, and less expensive model. That's how it works now. Gone are the days of graduating from college and being offered a lifetime job until retirement and pension after 30 years. So my advise is dont get attached to your job, keep your skills up to date and be prepared to move on 5-10 years or whenever the next round of layoffs occur.

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Post ID: @2ddg+ZF1vuAz

After many years, some appeared like a plant, sofa, or hanging picture.

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Post ID: @2ugd+ZF1vuAz

@ZF1vuAz-1jpo That happened in my department, the three LL6 who carried the department were let go. They were the highest paid. They were the most productive. They were top achievers. We were shell shocked as the bozo LL6s were left behind. The bozos just convinced LL3 to add three agency and two purchased services to the team because they had do not know what to do. They have been trying to blame everything that goes wrong on the LL6 who were let go. No one is buying it as the problems began after they were already gone. What a clusterF.

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Post ID: @2jvs+ZF1vuAz

At ford you don’t want to be a top achiever because you will end up with a higher salary than your slacker peers. In our team a number or high performers were released and the slackers are still there. Rumor says high earners in each job family were eliminated and from what I saw that could be true. Seems like the ones deciding who to eliminate should know that the higher earners were the ones getting (slightly) larger increases because of performance.

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Post ID: @1jpo+ZF1vuAz

mediocrity is rewarded at Ford. Everyone knows you get the same pay raise whether you are a slacker or a producer. The slackers ban together and sandbag/pick on the talented and motivated until they leave, get fired by a fellow slacker, or decide to become a slacker.

The top achiever selections are a popularity contest and have very little to do with actual achievements. The LL5 often pressures the PDC to give a favored child a TA so he can promote the favored one.

The unfortunate few who really are top achievers end up with higher salaries which then gets them canned in RIFs.

Save you some time and heart aches and head aches, If you are talented and motivated, Ford is not the place for you.

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Post ID: @tgd+ZF1vuAz

It wouldn’t be a problem if the pay increases align with experience and productivity. The problem is 95% get an increase in pay every year, regardless if they produce or not. Relatively few supervisors will step up and denote an employee “Needs Improvement” and everybody is mixed into the “Achiever” band. Even with that, everyone believes they are “Top Achievers” and pitch a hissing fit if they don’t get. This is more problematic with the younger generation. Company is in for a big surprise when the “Young Guns” don’t get what they want, when they feel they want it. The salaries are going to escalate exponentially regardless of the experience or seniority - it going to be a death spiral.

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Post ID: @gup+ZF1vuAz

Well thank you for that uplifting response. I'm sure that will be encouraging to anyone young looking to hire into Ford.

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Post ID: @ipt+ZF1vuAz

Sorry son, there's nothing at all new about cutting well paid heads regardless of actual skill and replacing them with inexpensive incompetents. That's been true for as long anyone here has been alive.

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