Thread regarding Ford layoffs

Don’t Sign Package Without Lawyer Reviewing

Purpose of the package is to have you sign your rights away. Can’t sue, can’t collect unemployment, can’t even go to arbitration.

When they present package you won’t even know who else was chosen. Give it a day and find out who was chosen.. Was there a group that was targeted (I.e. over 50 years old?) If you signed the package and are one of those in a targeted group, you signed your rights away.

Keep in mind 2 years ago package was 18 months. One year ago it was 9 months plus 6 months flex time. Currently HRONLINE maxes pkg at 9 months for 20 years of service.

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Post ID: @OP+Z1z6lo0

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Oh, thanks for the clarification. I thought perhaps that if you took the severance, that was it, no unemployment period.

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Post ID: @4ayi+Z1z6lo0

You can collect unemployment after the 1 month. So if your severance is 1 month, you cannot collect unemployment until after the 1 month. If your severance is 3 months you can collect unemployment after 3 months. The company hopes most people have found a new job by the time the severance runs out. Usually the more years of service you have the longer it will take to find a new job.

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Post ID: @4jfp+Z1z6lo0

I am curious about this. I'm hoping for the best, but in the event that I get let go, I think I'd only be getting one month of severance. That's really not worth it to me if it means that I could not also collect unemployment. Is there an option to just not sign whatever package they offer you if it means that you cannot collect unemployment? I assume at that point you would just be fired outright?

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Post ID: @4wir+Z1z6lo0

The severance package are pretty weak (GM actually offered better packages to their employees). Any chance it is negotiable. Do you have the right to hold on signing it immediately to talk to lawyer?

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Post ID: @3zjb+Z1z6lo0

Hmmm that lawsuit was before my time. We still do ABC only now we call it TA-A-LA. We still favor one class of people and disfavor another, only the flavors have changed.

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Post ID: @2vea+Z1z6lo0

https://www.fettlaw.com/verdicts-and-settlements/streeter-v-ford-motor-company/

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Post ID: @1zhj+Z1z6lo0

They got more lawyers then hairs on your back...

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Post ID: @1qdv+Z1z6lo0

They got more lawyers then hairs on your back...

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Post ID: @1hjq+Z1z6lo0

There is no bargaining..... Either your sign and get the package or don't sign and get nothing. That's it. That's the deal.

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Post ID: @1ibi+Z1z6lo0

No bargaining with amounts

You can cross out the things you do not like, initial the crossed out areas, put right above your signature a sentence to the effect that modifications above made before agreement and signing.

The things referred to here are widely cast lawyer statements such as - can’t work for competitor for 2 years - cannot use any knowledge gained on job at another job. Replace these with cannot use Ford confidential information for future gain etc.

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Post ID: @1rkc+Z1z6lo0

I am 55 with 35 years. Can I bargain the package?

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Post ID: @1dea+Z1z6lo0

Someone said oh here "give me nine months and I will sign"

Is there even a choice? If you get selected to go, you are gone.

Is there bargaining? Can you bargain. Would it be different between a termination and a retirement?

Can you bargain in a forced retirement? That is what I would like to know.

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Post ID: @1ucu+Z1z6lo0

It'll cost you about 500 bucks for a review

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Post ID: @1ttn+Z1z6lo0

If they give me 9 mo.... I sign.

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Post ID: @1vox+Z1z6lo0

lawyers cost $1000 per day... go ahead hire a lawyer while you collect unemployement of 1000 per month... not worth it my friends

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Post ID: @1ufd+Z1z6lo0

Good luck with that. I doubt they would do anything that could lead to lawsuits.

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Post ID: @mkd+Z1z6lo0

I wish I had money to afford a lawyer

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Post ID: @ejf+Z1z6lo0

Any recommendations on finding a lawyer that deals with this?

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