Thread regarding SAP layoffs

SAP is no longer the same SAP

SAP is no longer the same SAP it used to be who used to cared for it’s employees. Unfortunately not anymore. SAP board only cares about increasing share price but ignoring their engineering culture and acquiring companies. It’s become all about Sales. Then giving power to leadership of the acquired companies who in turn trash SAP and treats SAP employees like sh-- and lays off SAP employees.

Seen this happening over and over again. But this time Qualtrics takes the cake! 4400 SAP employees are loosing their jobs in 2019 to pay for Qualtrics - a survey tool company. SAP is not buying Quaktics for its products but for its customer base. SAP exes do not trust their own engineers teams.

Really good point by @XY58jBr-igkp.

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@YgElw7I-5rnx :

Look at how the teams are being setup:

The enterprise architect team is the furthest away from the digital transformation office team.

The enterprise architect team does business envisioning but does not look at technical integration, that is under custom development team

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Post ID: @nkho+YgElw7I

Another difference in SAP:

In the early years, when SAP does the quarterly employee town hall for results, there is only one results — the IFRS one. The globally accounting standards compliant one. And the numbers are not massaged. If a market units or product line exceeds it is shown as exceeded. If something is under, it is reputed as under. It is a time when Management and everyone else can eyeball the numbers to decide how to channel efforts for rest of the year.

Now, it’s reporting both IFRS and non IFRS numbers, and the non IFRS numbers are always in the headlines. Because that is what is being echoed to Wall Street, and it is what the Leaders have set the targets and the non IFRS numbers are just so much easier to reach, compared to IFRS numbers, where you have an external accounting standard, which all companies report on.

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Post ID: @nrbv+YgElw7I

The software integration of acquired products has been a nightmare since the first acquisition. When SAP bought SuccessFactors, it was a combination of start-ups (and therefore software modules) acquired ~10 years (VCs made a lot of money... even though SF was loosing money every year). Each module had its own UI, DB, programming language and was interfaced with txt files. Interface to SAP was txt file too.... "Start anywhere, go everywhere" as it said..... Any properly educated software engineer looking at this would cry. I do not know what has happened since and if anything was re-platformed / redeveloped / improved...

This is a typical example of misguided capital allocation (startup bubble or technology bubble 2.0, no proper useful product development, misguided allocation of investments and resources).

VCs make money, start-up employees become millionaires (e.g. Concur), SAP borrows and then needs to reimburse overpriced acquisitions, everyone rides the wave (or bubble) until it bursts.

Cloud contracts renewals are appalling and well below the break-even point or the famous 80%.

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Post ID: @5rnx+YgElw7I

Some people on this thread obviously don't work / worked for SAP...by the way you're incorrectly phrasing products. I'd stick to credible layoff info...

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Post ID: @4fle+YgElw7I

It is not just that SAP organization has changed, SAP product has changed too.

SAP ERP is known to be a well developed, robust, well integrated product.

Now SAP offers different solutions which do not integrate with one another, and as one of the architect internally admitted, it is just integrated on Powerpoint and bundled under one Marketing name, such as Leonardo, or CX. Even Success Factors is made up of multiple components that are not integrated real time.

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Post ID: @3gjv+YgElw7I

If you are in your late 40s and early 50s and still not financially secure, it will be very tough for you to jump ships for an equal pay scale. Practially, there isn't much you can do but just dig in hard and keep your fingers crossed that you will survive till you are eligible to pension and your retirement savings, if any.

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Post ID: @1oeg+YgElw7I

Jump ship fellas, if you have a job now - stay until you can get another one.

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Post ID: @1lgr+YgElw7I

Most of the Qualtrics customers that SAP will target already know the user experience fail that SAP products offer.

Has anyone ever talked to relatives or friends about SAP Products and heard them say WOW, I love the SAP User interface, it's so easy to use.....I didn't think so!

Have to hand it to Bill for convincing the Qualitrics CEO to sell out. Give it a year and SAP will destroy that product as well. Just like Hasso and the SAP Board sold out on the loyal and brilliant people that made SAP what is is.

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