I call BS

I read these posts and shake my head, and I call BS to them all :)

The sky is fallinaseg, the sky is falling says the chicken, or the boy who cries 'wolf'. First off, about me. I sit out of the Twinsburg Ohio building, been here about 4 yrs, give or take a few months. Will turn 32 this spring, not a kid but not what you people call "talent". So, no raises? Yes, no raises, and likely none for a while. Reason: the company is struggling. We have old technology, we rename this old c-ap to something like SDWAN, and try to sell it to unsuspecting businesses. Most businesses know our reputation and have little interest in our junk. We do not invest in what we have to make it better, instead we buy the same type of old technology companies in hopes of 'capturing' their customer base. TT is not the man to run WIN, we needed someone to bring us into the modern age, not paint over the same old c-ap and try to sell it as new. BUT, it is what it is, TT ain't going nowhere. So, we layoff to help cut costs. In 2018 we eliminated around 360 positions, not bad when you keep in mind we have 11k employees. Those 'let go' where what you people call 'talent, experience, etc. I call then dead weight. People with 20yrs, 30yrs with WIN but stuck in the same old technology bubble. I watched them. Each morning they park their cars in the same places, sit at the same lunch table with the same 'old boys' tell stories of how much better things were when were Alltell or SW Bell, or GTE. Well guess what, we ain't GTE or Alltell no more, we are WIN. So when I hear of all the 'great talent' we have lost I want to barf. These guys may have been 'great' 20yrs ago but they are dead weight these days. I agree that TT has run us into the ground but we need to dig back out. WIN probably will be gone in 5 yrs, but I don't let all the blame fall on TT. People are dropping landline phones in favor of cell phones. Time warner or Spectrum will expand into WIN regions and we will lose even more companies, this is a fact. So when you write about all the 'great talent' we have lost, I call BS. When you write how many jobs were outsourced to some third world sheeet hole country I again call BS. Get a grip people, you need to read the book, 'Who Moved my Cheese'. It's about some mice who always got their cheese from the same spot each day. One day the cheese wasn't there and they didn't know what to do. These mice are an excellent example of you people here at WIN. You are all looking for the cheese that isn't there anymore:)

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One of the Indian teams we outsourced to could troubleshoot circles around most of our domestic techs. They have trouble speaking English but they understand viop, bgp, mpls, and sdwan. We should all be prepared to be replaced.

"I call BS

I read these posts and shake my head, and I call BS to them all :)

The sky is fallinaseg, the sky is falling says the chicken, or the boy who cries 'wolf'. "

Looks like the sky fell on this person and silenced them for good!!!!!

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-15/windstream-services-loses-default-ruling-in-victory-for-aurelius

Hope this makes you feel better

So does WIN have anything to sell besides landlines and c-appy dsl? You need to look for a job somewhere else. That place sounds like a death sentence. No way anyone with a right mind would Work somewhere for several years without a pay raise unless they had no confidence at all in themselves!

Go back to sleep female cleansing product.

Dude that’s one long post. You lost me after 3 sentences when I realized you wrote an episode of “As the World Turns”

I will say I moved recently to a team full of these 20+ year workers. While some may embrace change most don’t. I’ve never heard a more whinny group of grown men on conference calls. They don’t want to do anything but what they already know and have a 100 reasons why.

Some of their frustrations may come from lack of raises and general morale, but on the flip side I can see why a management team may try to move these folks on to retirement etc early. If you have to spend two hours defending a change in progress to “the old boys club” it’s realky a waste of time.

More like who took my 401k money.

Does someone have a fiduciary responsibility to manage the 401k In the interest of employees?

Eastern Europe? What did Windstream shift there, and when and where?

I’ve got good news and bad news. Good news first, you don’t have to worry about anything anymore.

Bad news: they are actively looking to get rid of every possible job by automation or outsourcing.

Tony will continues to get paid. Everyone else will be replaced by a call center position overseas.

They are going to replace VP level and up. That’s correct, we’re outsourcing Mr. Chilli himself. They’ve recorded the same message from the sales leadership over the past 10 years and they’re going to have someone from India read the script back on quarterly conference calls. Sell wide deep with our over the top solutions. We have a right to win by selling with higher margins.

If they won’t agree we will raise their rates.

The new book is "who moved my cheese overseas".

What would you do if you had to pick between cutting cost to eat or starving to death? We all know the answer?

Get back to work Eric

Based on your post, pretty sure no one will ever refer to you as talent. Jagbag maybe, but certainly never talent

Here’s a newsflash d!psh!t, one of the main reasons people get upset about the company laying off “talent” is because since TT and WIN have barely bothered to invest in new systems to replace our outdated equipment, that “talent” that TT is shoving out the door are the people that know how to patch it back together and fix it. They’re still turning up customers on systems that were at end of life 10, 15, 20, years and even the manufacturers won’t support any more.

Based on your post, you’re one of the useless id--ts whose safe, mostly because you’re inexperienced and lower paid, and WIN is hoping you’ll pick up the slack for those let go when the reality is that you spend your days twiddling you thumbs watching what everyone else is doing. One of the a$$h@ts liking every post on stream and commenting “thanks for posting” or “welcome to the team” for whatever vp they’ve hired this week. You are a TOOL!

Tony’s cousin posting again

Lol the fact that you are 32 and don't realize that time is being wasted at Windstream is a fail within it self. If you've already acknowledge the likeliness the company isn't going to be around in five years what's the point of being there now? Shouldn't you be looking for another job instead of writing a useless post?

Alan is ranting again

Leave or be prepared to deal with the necessary changes to avoid bankruptcy.

"Will turn 32 this spring, not a kid but not what you people call "talent"."

Why are you still at WIN if you are 32? You should be striving to work for a better company for your future growth, it will look bad on your resume when they see you wasted your best years at WIN. Update your resume and get out so you can make some real money and have a real future.

If you are still at WS, doesn't that make you one of those looking for cheese too?? Sounds like it to me

Your statement is mostly true. However it is not bs about the outsourcing. They moved jobs to India, Jamaica and Eastern Europe. Trumps new tax plan favoring companies to keep jobs here did not even change TT mind to ship jobs overseas. The fact that he thinks they can do our jobs better with a lower education speaks volumes on how he views American work ethics. With that said the rest i agree with you. TT wants more software automation and even A.I technology. Means less of a workforce and more money in His pockets. No raises but his millions in yearly bonuses. His attitude towards the low man on todem pole reflects his character which is all about me. I do wish the best for the company for the sake of the people who still work there, but the future is dim with this man navigating the ship.

When you learn to spell, then post! I have over 30 years of experience. Its kids like you that know absolutely nothing. 30 years of experience does not mean we didn't continue to learn. Think before you post!!!!!

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