Thread regarding Windstream Corp. layoffs

Obviously you don't understand the meaning of legacy. We bought c-appy companies with poor leadership. They had been run out of traditional teleco's and ended up at the NUVOX voodoo shop. We pulled their executives into our leadership roles and the started

driving ours into the ground. If you were around in the mid 2000's when win gave away free Roku you can't blame anyone but yourself for keeping stock. Tht showed the people running it had no clue. Promoting people to stream video on a remote feed by 4 T-1's. Plows should have been in the ground then putting fiber to EVERY remote. Not blowing money on 2 tier companies run by burn outs.

“Cable companies and other telcos ran their fiber way over 10 years ago - the WIN field techs reported only in the last 5 years or so have WIN been aggressively been laying fiber. But they will never win back the customers they lost!”

There’s truth in what you say but cable companies like to milk residential customers, too - especially where they don’t think they have strong competition.

I had great Time Warner / Charter / Spectrum service but then as traffic increased it went to hell because they didn’t upgrade their capacity. I switched to WS fiber.

So at least you are competing with some of the most unloved, sleazy companies in the US. There’s some hope there.

"Lol. Your funny. The business had to change or die. The buyouts were to get technology and or developments your own teams were incapable of achieving. Think 5g."

TT is thinking $5 million, not 5g - his salary and bonuses. WINMQ didn't want to invest to change the business, they were perfectly content with milking what they had, along with getting some handouts from the government for rural broadband expansion.

5G will bring WINMQ's backhaul network to its knees because many points haven't been upgraded to handle the increased bandwidth demand. Nice try, TT

"TT biggest mistake was hiring LL and all his looser buddies. We let our customer base bleed away with a slow death."

Many cities where WIN has or had a decent customer base have decided to wire up their own fiber since they couldn't get any of the telcos to upgrade the speeds, and sadly many of these towns that are deciding on wiring up their own fiber have a well-off customer base. WIN gave themselves a horrible reputation for not having fast broadband speeds for years, customers would rather use the broadband connection on their mobile phones - which is usually a lot faster - than use the outage-prone broadband WIN is trying to sell them.

Cable companies and other telcos ran their fiber way over 10 years ago - the WIN field techs reported only in the last 5 years or so have WIN been aggressively been laying fiber. But they will never win back the customers they lost!

Having a decent broadband customer base could have lessened their losses over the years - they have how many subscribers now after all these 'mergers'?

How many of the older copper-fed central offices have they cut to the 'newer' systems - like the Meta-switch junk boxes? Verizon has been converting their old CO's to newer offices the last few years - I can't imagine WIN has the money - especially now - to move the customers off POTS onto the VolP - buy they time they get a decent percentage of people moved, the next generation of phone services will be out.

If they haven't sold off this part of the company, they certainly will after they emerge from the Chapter 11 swamp.

When you eventually see the top executives leave you’ll know there is no more money left in the coffer(s). I still recall the crocodile tears rolling from LL eyes when he announced a chunk of IT was being let go. This is the same person that would boast in celebratory fashion the closing of data centers at quarter meetings like he shot down enemy aircraft. It may have had to be done, I don’t know but, he sure appeared to enjoy making the announcements

Little Rock people have it the worst. We have to face everyone and can’t run or hide from customers. They’ll come to the front door and request to speak to management.

You would be suprised that Little Rock people are the last to know what’s coming and most of the time find out from someone else after something goes down.

Just so you know LITTLE ROCK employees hate this place the most. I don’t think it matters where you are working here s--- and I’m working on getting the heck out of here.

Agreed...we’re on the floor supporting off-net DSL customers the same as true enterprise customers. Actually better because I get at least 2 escalations a week on these jokers. These are dead and dying customers that just show revenue but not any profit. Just another Windstream cook the books scheme. Let me get back to my multiple remedies and duplicate tickets. Love this broke company.

Lol I’ve seen patec pricing and that’s part of the reason we’re in this mess.

Check win margins in 2012 and Paetec margins.

Paetec was the death of Windstream. 2/3 of their sales were fake and never billed. That’s a fact.

THe EarthLink deal structure buried us. You don’t merge 2 failing companies and expect them to be better.

Earthlink workers were very distressed to discover the company who could only compete with price bought them...

Miss the Deltacom Nuvox Paetec rivalries when this game was fun.

Everyone hates being a Windstreamer unless they live in Little Rock.

@XQ34NIS-yev

Paetec workers felt the same way. I remember saying “We got bought by who?”

Believe me Nuvox employees sure didnt want to be bought by a company we had never heard of. I'm sure the others feel the same.

TT biggest mistake was hiring LL and all his looser buddies. We let our customer base bleed away with a slow death. Switching to a focus of going after only large customers (10K MRR), and letting the bread and butter customers of 3k to 5k go to our Competitors. You live by the sword you die by the sword!

This is likely one of the stupidest posts.

TT and the gang are clowns, this is true, but the decisions were not clueless, they were just bad and misguided.

Windstream is a moderately viable rural telecom company that they wanted to transform into a communications power. This was never going to happen, large enterprise customers that have choices are wise not to choose Windstream...a moderately viable rural telecom company.

Big dreams, no chance.

What value did you just provide?

Especially in regards to layoffs...which is what this board is for? Go back to working your hourly job thinking you know best and you can your half wit co-workers can keep complaining while offering no solutions.

Waste of energy.

Lol. Your funny. The business had to change or die. The buyouts were to get technology and or developments your own teams were incapable of achieving. Think 5g.

Also - chap 11 was already filed and was done so for an action from 2015. Before the buy outs.

Tired of these stupid posts. NEXT