Thread regarding Seagate Technology Inc. layoffs

Choose Your Boss, Not Your Job

Quite possibly the best advice I’ve ever heard about selecting your next career is to pick your boss, not the job.

This is challenging because the process we use to find meaningful work is designed to work the opposite way; the boss picks you. More often than not, you only talk to your boss during the interview process, which is a poor predictor of what he/she will actually be like. By focusing on who your boss will be above most other criteria (e.g. total compensation, responsibility, advancement opportunities, location) changes how you pursue jobs and how happy you’ll be once you select one.

According to a recent Forbes article, more than 2 million people are quitting their jobs each month. More than 74% of people would consider finding a new job. And, 32% are actively looking for their next opportunity. From a high level:

  • A good boss in a mediocre company will protect you and support you.

  • A bad boss in a good company will frustrate and demoralize you.

  • A good boss in a good company will unlock your potential.

Traits of a good boss: drives retention, delegates authority, trustworthy, is a servant/transformational leader, interested in doing what’s right, consistent in decision-making, and is empathetic.

Traits of a bad boss: drives turnover, micromanages others and processes, instills fear, authoritarian leader, interested in being right, inconsistent in decision-making, and is cold/self-focused.

So, how do you find a good boss? First and foremost, understand yourself. Have you established your personal intention? If so, what is your ambition statement (what you need to achieve in the next 3 – 5 years)? By determining a clear path for what you want to achieve, you can conduct a gap analysis of your skills and better determine how a particular boss can coach and mentor you to your goals.

Secondly, picking a tremendous boss demands that you have a strong network.

By cultivating relationships with professionals in your field, you can share notes on the bosses you’ve worked for or heard about. This does take time and research, but knowing who the good managers are and seeking them out is probably the best predictor of a prosperous career.

Last, conduct informational interviews with the potential bosses before you actually have the chance to work with them. By treating him or her to coffee or lunch, learning more about what makes him or her tick, you can establish a rapport and see how you can generate value for him or her. You will also learn how the person may be able to support you as you achieve your life’s intent.

As I think back over my career, the single biggest determinant of whether I was happy, productive, developing or duly rewarded was my boss at the time. As Jim Rohn once said, “You are the average of the five people you spend the most time with.”

Do yourself a favor; search for jobs with purpose and choose your boss before your title or company.

The career and life of your dreams will evolve organically from there.

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Post ID: @OP+WR53jSe

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The reality is that most VPs at Seagate do not drive the priorities necessary for the success of the company, instead the focus is on the shiny object of the moment while the storage industry moves forward. Billions of dollars in wasted money on the most recent acquisitions that were forgotten moments after the money was transferred. There is a lack of focus, blame, and no strategy.

The people who got the company into this mess are not only still there, but promoted. Value act needs to clean house of execs if this company will ever get back on track, though not sure it is possible now as too much time as gone by.

Choosing the right boss is a good idea, but once in the role you find the boss is not right, you have to move on. If at Seagate, move to a new company is a high probability because there are a lot of bad bosses.

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Post ID: @3idx+WR53jSe

In regards to choosing ones boss. That won't last long at Seagate. You will be reorg'ed around to report to another boss at least once every 2 years or sometimes more often. You also won't be able to do an internal job change in the same functional organization to report under a new boss. You will just be denied or moved back by the director and your preferences will be ignored. So, if your happy with your existing boss, then we can't have that at Seagate for long. Director level people at Seagate have full control on who you will work for. You're opinion on the matter won't be asked or considered and means little.

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Post ID: @2hnx+WR53jSe

Choosing your boss is very hard, especially from the outside looking in. Even if you do find a great boss reorgs can happen. It’s much easier to find a company with a good culture in a growing, or at least stable, field, which tends to attract and retain more good managers.

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Post ID: @2aar+WR53jSe

Seagate has historically retained, rewarded, and defended bosses that treat people horribly. I know first hand unfortunately. One such manager had 80% of his reports take new jobs in the span of 1 year. I was one of them and left in 3 months. Complaints to higher levels or HR by multiple people did no good. As long as there was no hard evidence of policy violation they didn't care. He was still retained and moved to new rolls for 8 years after that until finally RIFFED. That was a long time ago, but I doubt much has changed.

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Post ID: @1jft+WR53jSe

Just look around, no good directors, vps. CEO turned over almost all of his staff, still more change to come. Very well needed. Need some cost cutters from Walmart to make complete.

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Post ID: @umz+WR53jSe

ya. blame the bos for not being good enough

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Post ID: @rhv+WR53jSe

Best managers have left or been RIFed, no good ones left. A bunch of egotistical id--ts punching a clock until retirement

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Post ID: @dys+WR53jSe

Sad that most of the good bosses have left STX in the last few years.

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Post ID: @kum+WR53jSe

Or, stop being a "slave" to the "system..."

Only slaves have "Boss's..."

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