Thread regarding IBM layoffs

2018, the year of Reorgs, Layoffs and Taxes

Do the leaked possible reorganization and potential layoffs of much IBM staff and layoffs figure into IBM's projection of flat earnings per share for 2018?

Not something they will advertise in advance on their earnings call. However, severance costs are high and presumably affect the bottom line. If so, the potentially lower labor costs once the reorganization is done would help to increase IBM's earnings per share in 2019 and thereafter.

As to the potentially higher tax rate for 2018, IBM figured it out in the past with apparently a very strong tax staff. Given the complexities of the new tax law, there may be as yet unseen ways to reduce IBM's US taxes. IBM lowered its taxes way below the expected tax rate in the last few years.

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I believe the real thing to look at is the 5.5 billion charge taken in 4th q. What does that equate to. 5.5/.15 repatriation charge = 36.666 billion. Now IBM always had access to the 36 billion of cash, and said as much during the CFO call just after earnings release. The CFO also said due to access of the 36 billion, IBM’s strategy has remained steady, and continues unabated. So what does the 4th q charge really mean going forward. I believe it really means, that IBM has big 2018 plans to curb their legacy costs “mostly” in the USA. The legacy costs in Europe, and OZ are also a problem, but they are less of a concern for IBM as the “intangibles” (retirement, health care, severance, and deferred expenses) are already accounted for via the local government policy’s vs the USA . So what do I believe is going to happen??? I believe IBM will on shore the 36 billion, and take an expense to make the legacy costs zero out. (Eg if you are a company purchasing, or acquiring IBM legacy, your acquisition of the assets zero’s out the intangibles). Just look at Global Foundries and IBM’s spin off to them. IBM took a very large charge to make BTV and EF go away. (Eg the intangibles were on the books for a whole lot). So now let’s look at IBM’s current landscape. They want to “milk” the legacy mostly via IP, but no one will pay them for that due to the intangible charges. If IBM makes the intangibles go away, they build a model where low margin companies can acquire IBM services assets at the cost of “new hires”. It’s quite a win / win for IBM as they really do wish to milk that Legacy investment via IP. NET NET this seems to dovetail nicely with the GTS/GBS combination. Harvest out the “younger/ strategic investment skills” into IBM services, and spin off the “older / more experienced” legacy skills to a new endeavor (the intangible zeroing out make this quite attractive for any company looking at IBM experienced folks to hire, as no baggage comes along with the hire)

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