Is it just me or are the works council useless apologists for management? More interested in protecting their own backs than looking after employees interests.
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@Q6OlkZK-39ios Unite are equally as useless. About 10 years ago they hired a van with a sign on the side and parked it outside of the HP head office (or was it the EDS) one and have done nothing since. You're better off saving the subs putting them in a savings account for one you're WFR'd and your union rep doesn't even bother to return your calls
Works council is worthless. The PCS is also next to pointless and useless. When I was made redundant in March 2017 I made numerous attempts to contact reps at local and national level without success. Just kept getting passed from pillar to post, took my money for years, but when I needed them didn’t see them for dust!
Works Council is an oxymoron!
Look up the term collective bargaining....
For years us folk at CSC were told the union were powerless and needed more paid members to fund / challenge the administration.
Well guess what, they got a boat load of HPE ES people to increase the stakes for collective bargaining and to date there has been one union email... and that was sh--e too.
Union is dead in DXC, the leadership know this.
Not stuck working for a US mentality company because the works council member actively campaigned to have me made redundant! Happily working outside of dxc but will always be shocked at their behaviour. Whilst dxc management are responsible for the state of the company by playing along with the sham of consultation etc the wc are doing nothing to help. They would be better resigning en masse.
Rather than whinge about UKWC effectiveness why not focus on the real problem which is that you are stuck working for a company with a typical US mentality of not dealing constructively with Unions, a mentality that has stuck here also since Thatcherism and reached such a level of acceptance that workers actually believe the propaganda that Unions are against their interests.
What is the point then of anyone actually bothering with the UKWC if it can achieve nothing, share nothing and basically do nothing?
It only exists to give management a false veneer of decency, why accord them that decency?
By what you've said here, the best intentions of the staff members who make up the WC achieve nothing other than wearing a badge and presumably giving false hope to the ground down staff.
And what do you base this accusation on? I've always found the UKWC to be full of helpful & supportive people.
You need to get out more and do some research, the powers of a UK Works council are non-existent compared to European works council. The company only has to tell them stuff the company doesn't have to listen to the UKWC. The company gets final say on any information that is posted on the UKWC sharepoint (unlike in EU where full minutes have to be published within a set time rather than waiting for weeks for HR to release their redacted version), the UKWC can't communicate with staff etc. etc.
Blame DXC leaders not UKWC for the terrible state the company is in.
Works Council is not a Union. Mate what a joke!
I am in a union. Perhaps many wc members do have good intentions but some I know are only there to protect their own interests and have actively contributed to having employees they do not like made redundant.
Agree with @1rhq.
I would also add the words of an Employee Rep a few years ago - 'it's consultation, not negotiation'.
The Works Council is not a Union. It has more teeth in other parts of the EU but in the case of the UK it's largely a façade put there for senior management to pretend it has some meaningful consultation with staff representatives. It doesn't, they just tell them as late as possible and pretend they've consulted. The people that are on it are there with the best intentions and do their best.
If you want a union get off your backside and join one and then be active in it.
In CSC days the UKEF and the Union were both bloody useless.
All the would say was "if we argue too much then management will shut us out of further meetings"
Basically, the company know they are powerless and treat them with the disdain they deserve.