Using H1B aka cheap engineers is toxic. BK - you need to get rid of this attitude if you want to be great again. Stop outsourcing your talent......................
https://venturebeat.com/2017/09/19/intel-offers-free-ai-compute-to-200000-people-through-new-devcloud/ - The chipmaker also announced that it’s working with Tata Consultancy Services to help accelerate the development of AI systems through expert advice in an AI Center of Excellence.
@PqNnhxR-guex Good and accurate, had many an argument that BS US engineering were a motivated bunch and culturally a good fit to work hard.
Get a bunch of foreign born highly educated PhD who dream of doing great things and only come in and find they are doing mindless things at the beckoning of idiotic managers is laughable waste of this talent, but you got them locked in what H1b and they start families and viola got an employee for a decade, brilliant exploitation but totally misguided. Easier for management to hire the most trained then search for appropriate talent for each job. The cost difference is small over the convenience of this strategy.
It's not that they are cheap per se but Intel uses academia as a barrier to entry to get MS and PhD grads on H1B to do work that a BS grad could do. The thinking is that more education equals higher performance and more intellect for innovation. So basically, Intel abuses the H1B program to get what it thinks are better employees ostensibly because there aren't enough qualified employees in the US. As a former Intel employee I can say with certainty that these academically overqualified employees do not help with innovation and are no better at their jobs, often being the opposite due to risk aversion and other cultural differences. In reality, there are plenty of 4 year, and even 2 year, undergrads who could do much of the work Intel needs. And besides process development, contractors do all of the high skilled work anyhow.
Consider that many countries offer free higher education while the cost of getting an education in the US is very expensive. Many American students come out of school with a BS itching to get a job, particularly given their massive student loan debt. Well there's not many jobs at Intel where recruiters are looking to hire a new BS grad, even with an engineering degree, unless they come from a top engineering school. And of course they can afford to be picky when they can alternatively hire an Indian PhD for the same job and similar pay.
Intel will get away with this forever because policy makers are too ignorant and and probaly don't care to understand what skills are truly needed at tech companies. Companies like Intel can simply say "what we do is sooooo complicated that only PhD's can do it" and policy makers' eyes will instantly glass over and they will say "ok, keep up the good work".
What many do not grasp is that there is a virtually-infinite pool of engineers from other non-European countries. Their quality is not like that of the natives. In fact, nearly all of them who are being hired, have to finish American grad schools in order to be brought up to par. That has, over time, kept technical compensation and efficiency of personnel use from rising. Thus, when Americans see lower wages than what would have been, foreign working cultures in their own land, and preference for others by foreign managers & business elites, they flee STEM.
Anyone who thinks that cheap H1Bs are taking away jobs from Americans should do the following: Go to the job website of your choice and post a fake job offer for an embedded C developer with five years of experience in. Then see who applies for that position. As an added bonus, post it for a less desirable location, like Utah or Colorado or any other place that is not a common always-wanted-to-move-there location for the average American.
The results will shock you. But I ask you not to take my word for it. Try for yourself. Please. It takes about half an hour. If you are going to base your political opinion and even your vote on the job situation in America, then it should be worth 30 minutes of your time.
You would say? That means you are guessing? Or you know? Because at least the contractors I know at Intel get hourly rates that make me want to quit and come back as green badge if there was any way to pull this off.
The h1b at intel may be expensive. The thousands of h1b contractors, i would say off payroll employees are very cheap
Be careful working with someone complaining on lack of team work. These in general only do lip work and very good on taking credit from others. Since they don't do real work, they have time to play politics.
I think CEO of Google, MS were h1/L1 they were never cheap, even now..
Ps Ajit Jain has been paid over 1 billon by Buffet, who is very cheap that a Big B
Actually Indian, Isarelis are paid at high end of scale usually because of great grad schools, even IITS beat SJ state
I love how Americans have to delude themselves into believing that H1Bs are „cheap“ so they don‘t have to admit to themselves that they are simply being out-skilled by basically every other country. Easier to think „I don‘t get that job because I am expensive“ than to realize „I don‘t get that job because I am dumb“.
And yes, there are cheap H1Bs, but H1Bs at Intel are far from cheap. How do you think H1Bs afford houses in Santa Clara? From welfare?