Thread regarding Saudi Aramco layoffs

Third world with a big helping of extremist mentality. There are plenty of 3rd world countries that are easier to live in.

I'd be more worried about the 80% imported food statistic than the price of coffee.

Since feeding yourself is hard work and that is in short supply how bout you whomp up that exit visa country club list? We must have been right about the 60 day thing too, since you ran out of ways to lie about it.

Always makes me laugh when a Saudi attempts to compare his country with ours’.

Coffee? This is all you have?

Like I said, your country is literally third world. You HAVE to pay us x4 more than you make to even get us to consider coming over. Imagine a world in which your people were able to cope without someone holding your hand for everything?

Saudi dude - you forgot your company can't afford coffee. The dollar was your saudi family account fund payment. Keep it. I have a million more just like it.

Where's our country club list?

What kind of coffee can you get for a Dollar? American coffee? No thanks, we have far better coffee, even if it costs more.

Here's a dollar dude. Go sober up and get a coffee.

You do, they are called Curators and are for those judged mentally deficient. No need to chase maids, besides most are married to Americans.

He's number 50000 in today's Maids R Us line. We wont see him around for awhile.

Thats just wrong 😂

The rumor is he stubbed his toe in the lounge and will return in 2-3 weeks after his medical leave.

Homes will slowly fill to overflowimg with garbage. They won't know where to put it.

If Widodo follows suit, the country will collapse.

Well why not? Time is running out before Duterte cuts the supply chain.

The saudi dude must be out disposing another maid

No list yet. Where are all of those "professional expats" and self-appointed corporate representatives when you need them? Someone check that new lounge.

In civilized countries you don't have to "sort out" ownership of your own property.

It's 60 days OR as specified in the contract.

So Aramco is free to choose the notice period, and they chose to retroactively apply it to everyone, including employees hired when the notice period was 30 days.

Not very professional. Not reflective of a world class competitive international company. Definitely not forced to do so by law.

At saudi aramco the official policy is that it's quite ok to steal your money if it's just a little bit.

Waiting for that country club list in 3....2.....1......

True. Plenty of them. Saudi, Uzbek, North Korea....LOL

Looks like a membership list for the shthole country club.

Please give us some more names?

I have no doubt you know someone who left without getting whatever few Riyals were left in his bank account, its a choice you make, however if there were millions in his account, he most likely would choose to stay and sort it out. There are plenty of other countries with exit visa requirements if you are on a work contract, not just Saudi Arabia, but those with limited knowledge of living and working as an expat probably don't know that...

It is 60-days notice for open ended contracts, https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=17fd6f8e-9c66-44aa-8157-6dd6a320cf88

That 28 page checklist is an amazing work and it sure does ensure payments. Knew a guy who followed it to a tee. Got to "close your bank account". Went to close it. Aramco had already cancelled his iqama.

He ended up leaving without his money because his bank account was frozen.

Yep, it's a pretty good racket.

Pointing out that your whole country is one big trap is very helpful. We'll remembet that next time you try a lame comparison to any civilized country anywhere.

Saudi companies have the right to require 60 days notice but by no means are mandated to do so. If a company chooses to ask for 30 vs 60 there is no, zero penalty. The law also does not require 60 days either. The law allows immediate resignation. What it does allow is the saudi company to withhold those 60 days from the employee's final settlement.

With that said Aramco can unlock those doors if they choose. Aramco has chosen to require this of their own will. The 50 doors used to take less than 30 days. Now that saudis hold those 50 keys they need 60. That is not aligned with the competitors that you seem do desparately need to prove that you are as good as or better than.

I don’t think anyone said 60 days was an Aramco requirement. What is the point you are trying to make? It is just strange that back in the old days when there were no internet or computers, it could be done in 30 days.

60 Days is a Government requirement not an Aramco Requirement. Exit visa only is to ensure all obligations have been met, money paid, etc. The exit form is a checklist which is now much more convienient than the paper form and systems developed by the Americans in old Aramco days. But then you would not know or even understand that in your rush to denigrate all things Saudi.

The video was probably made when employee relations navigated you through. Around 5 years ago they did. Now they do not. So the saudi aramco in the youtube videos is NOT the saudi aramco that locks those 50 doors and holds those 50 keys today. Their self-appointed "marketing agents" with their "just leave" advice sure are working hard to make it appear so.

You almost lost me at Customer Relations Management. The 60 days is a serious inconvenience. It is really complicated to leave here. It is also complicated to come here. The difference is that Aramco handles all the coming. They don't help with the leaving.

By law HR is saudized. That means it is your responsibility and your problem to get processed out.

Finding a job is easy. Untangling from Saudi Aramco? Holy CRM batman.

50 locked doors (unmanned) by 50 saudis with 50 different keys spread around 22 departments to navigate. It's an electronic minefield.

Then can you leave? Nope, saudi aramco has to give you "permission" to leave or you never board the flight. Between a visa to arrive, a visa to enter and exit once you arrive, then a visa to leave saudi aramco reserves the right to dictate when and where you come and go.

Questions: Why would an open, honest, competitive company with confidence in their happy well compensated employees feel the need to build a 50-door tunnel between their employees and the exit? Why isn't there a video about that on the internet somewhere?

Walk the talk. If you're so confident and competitive and your employees are so happy - unlock those 50 doors and drop the two month notice period to 2-4 weeks like everyone else in the civilized world.

At last I agree with you. Never accept a job with Aramco. We are not complaining about ourselves. We are trying to save others.

Why would you ask such a question if you had contacts who knew what was going on? People already know the answer to that...go find a job...

We've been doing our medical treatment outside. What a disaster. But they still have that one working ambulance. Saudize that and it won't be manned, he'll be in the lounge.

We shouldnt complain about the camps though. The security is fantastic. They are batting 1000 ensuring that not a single yard is mowed or car is washed without skimming the pocket of the poor guy who does it for whoever's relative got the contract to provide the "service". They are wayyyyy better at that then enforcing security, based on the recent non-resident "help yourself" incidents in yards and garages.

Somehow the 95000 cameras can find a gardener washing a car and they can scramble jets and assemble troops to collect their cut but when saudi kids bother our daughters or steal bikes they can never figure out what happened.

Truly saudized.

Come to think of it maybe that's what the new lounge (former dining hall) is for. It isn't for residents. That has to be where the manager's relatives are lounging around waiting for security to skim some gardener's pocket to fatten their contract.

Innocently wondering - was the utube video made before or after they closed the women's gym in 2015?

JHAH is doing great. Shorter wait times than SAMSO, more efficient, new equipment and procedures. It’s just EPIC now!

When I came to Aramco, medical was efficient. Then they opened it to extended families. Now employees are better off going outside or, if possible, waiting for repat. SAMSO was made into a train wreck. JHAH is just a more cost effective version with no liability.

We must provide exhausted weekend visiting non-residents a place to lounge.

They'll lay there suffering for weeks waiting on a medical appointment.

We can improve things by classifying them as saudi weekend family vacation areas, segregating the pools, turning the resident dining hall into a lounge for saudis, then setting up a convoluted mess of counters and serving areas and calling it a restaraunt. A dress code for some of the smaller communities is another fantastic idea.

The lounge is critical to the plan. Saudis need a place to lounge a lot more than residents need to eat. It's a medical necessity.

Yes you can now find the video about life on camp only on YouTube because anything on the internet will never go away. Those videos used to exist on the corporate website until myriad wives who got stuck in Khobar said that those videos were lies. And they were right. I saw women taking the bus to camp in the morning just to walk their babies around the golf course. Better to create a website for new hires. Oh wait. That was already done. That website has been blocked.

Here is a video of life on camp https://www.facebook.com/MINDREL/videos/1850508735230942/?hc_ref=ARRvbgkU_Ev0u3a3s38iJQoRvl6oYrC1mL9TTGHeV3xUhngJhl-KGPb0MN5mETLtOm8

Great recruitment tool. Come to Aramco and learn to start your morning with Weetabix. Don't forget we have that hodden gem Marmite. Sign me up.

My bad. Four years of Latin. I also thought the Saudi might have confused QED with a boat.

QED would have been less pretentious. Clearly life on camp is wonderful and no one has anything of substance about improving life on camp. Life is what you make it.