Thread regarding Dell Inc. layoffs

Low IQ company

Dell is a low IQ company dominated by sales people and the Inside Sales laptop pushers.

With EMC it's looking like they'll keep low end, mid-range, converged and Data Domain products but if you're too tough a product to sell, like software or VMAX, you're doomed.

The average Dell sales person is too lazy and too dumb to do the work required to sell the software products and VMAX is a very complex sale. Dell sales people are too stupid to do anything complex so I wouldn't hold out for a next generation VMAX coming, they'll let VMAX run until people stop buying it and then shut it down.

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The Vmax isnt going anywhere. Thats like saying 20 years ago Mainframe is no longer. Is it? New products are on the way man.

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Post ID: @dpst+PAdFMHT

Dell pure and simple is a commodities company and the sales force and much of the field engineering staff reflect that. Any technology that takes more than a quarter to sell they run from as much as possible. Currently the big thing is storage again.... after hiring and firing four sets of storage experts Dell is doing it again, problem is they truly believe their AE/SC's know storage and will sell it which is bunk. They need to take storage and networking and let them run their own business devoid of client selling AE's and Server centric SE's. As for management most are channel legacy types who couldn't sell their way out of a paper bag. All show no go as they say guard rail to guard rail in their decisions.

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Post ID: @dyod+PAdFMHT

Why are happy people wasting their time on this site judging other people's experiences and opinions? Must be HR.

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Post ID: @2zeu+PAdFMHT

@PAdFMHT-1spe - I agree mate. I find this site has gone down the route of bitter complainers and outsiders spreading FUB vs what it should be - true insider knowledge about actual events occuring. My personal experience is that the Dell EMC business is still struggling to integrate, but the core IP and skills are being strenuouly protected. Anyone who thought that this "merger" would be painless is living in an alternate universe. There is huge overlap, both in account coverage and in functions and product. There will be rationalisation programs continuing probably for years and by then the IT market will have moved on. All these complaints about management and directors may be appropriate - as has been said, no company is perfect, but my experience tells me that these people do not know what the next steps are either - by design. yet they have to put a brave face on it as life goes on just as business does.

If you are one of the ones badly affected, that's sad, I'm sorry to hear it, but I can assure that there is always something better out there. However, if you are just moaning for the sake of it, rather than picking yourself up and doing an even better job, or even looking for a better job - then you are probably one of those people who has been marked for release already.

Stop wasting your energy on this site and apply that energy towards being a better you. You'll feel better for it. Believe me.

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Post ID: @1uaq+PAdFMHT

Oh boy, lots of "outsiders" looking in here. None of the crap posted above is true. Equallogic is STILL a functional business unit in Dell. Why? Hell I don't know, they've been declining for years but they're still HERE. Quest: sold off and doing fine. Perot: sold to NTT and doing fine. Compellent is still operating and doing fine. Alienware is going gangbusters! With EMC running the storage biz now, TBD. The only acquisition in the past 5 years actually killed was Enstratius. Just like any other business on the planet, if things you invest in don't do well, you divest and shift focus. At Dell engineering is NEVER the first to go. Matter of fact engineering is vehemently protected. What you say is pure nonsense.

Please, stop spreading lies on fever-pitched paranoia dens like thelayoff.com.

The original post about sales people and VMAX complexity... maybe. We do have a lot of very bad sales people. But seriously, doesn't everyone? They're SALES people, if they were brilliant, they'd be in engineering. ;-)

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Post ID: @1spe+PAdFMHT

Welcome to the channel...

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Post ID: @kdw+PAdFMHT

interesting. I always feel Dell senior people in operations are mindblowingly dumb. Guest looking good from the outside does fit into bird brain stereotype sometimes.

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Post ID: @wjj+PAdFMHT

Accurate

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Post ID: @cqe+PAdFMHT

Completely agree.

This behavior is in-line how Dell 'operates' acquired companies:

  1. extract all possible revenue / value of the purchased assets [AKA milk it]

  2. shrink / limit investment [engineering is the first one to go], sustaining (bug fixes) is often kept

  3. sell what they have "as is" and continue to push elevated "support"

  4. send all they can to places in the world (earth for now) where labor is dirt cheap with minimum regard for quality

Many customers will tell you this is what happened to Quest, Perot Systems, Equalogic and maaaany more

Customers eventually learn, stop buying, Dell moves onto next "prodigy child"

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