Last poster, are you saying more were laid off this morning (Fri)??? Can you give details on which department?
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More layoffs just occurred
Are = our. Our opinions. Sorry, typing too fast!
I think we can all throw are opinions around, but if we read the article linked below, it says this will continue into 2018. Our opinions really don't mean anything when it is right there in black and white. Anyone surprised by the next round is not paying attention.
Last poster, do you read an entire post or just pick out certain words then respond?
Every time more layoffs are predicted, someone - who knows, maybe the same person every time with too much time on their hands -gets on and shouts "fear mongering!" "chicken little!" "negativity!" And then, just as predicted, another layoff occurs.
If someone were to say, end the end of 2016, "get ready. a year of layoffs - one round after the other - is coming," they would have been called crazy, negative, etc.... Unfortunately, reality just isn't all sunshine and roses, and not everyone who has info to share should be so easily written off, not at this point, after all that 2017 has shown us.
My question pertained to why leadership was told 2018 is going to be a bad year. I'm calling BS on that. Upper management WOULD NOT have said that to leadership. I'm not doubting the layoffs predicted, just calling BS on leadership being told 2018 will be bad. I acknowledged more layoffs with PHCs and CHEs in my post.
And to say an entire year will be bad is absolutely fear mongering! Ever notice when something like that is said, the poster never comes back to support the post? Grow up!
I agree they have should throughout this year. The proof is in the pudding
All the layoffs posted here have occurred. I don't think anyone can say someone is fear mongering
How do you know leadership is being told 2018 will be a bad year? Do I sense more fear mongering? We all know the CHE role is being eliminated and the PHC role is changing, but they are hiring HCMs and in home health. How is it expected to be a bad year? You can't just say they are being told it will be a bad year without saying how!
I wonder if the HAH telephonic program is going to be folding.
That is not good.
Count on it! Leadership is saying in meetings that 2018 will be a very bad year
Count on it! Leadership is saying in meetings that 2016 will be a very bad year
Tell me how knowing this far in advanced really helps since we still don't know who or when. After 3 rounds, one per quarter, you have to know your job is not safe anyway. Any associate with a brain is preparing plan B just in case and is actively looking for a new job. All it does when you know this far in advance is whip people into a frenzy and they are wrought with worry and fear. Quality of work and production suffers for some because they are consumed with worry. We were notified through this site in July that layoffs were pending for August or Sept. Associates freaked out and that's the only reason they decided to be transparent...to get out ahead of rumors that were already spinning and caustic. Long story short, everyone should already have plans B in place.
Thank you, poster.
From what I was told they would have to give us notification before that date. Not quite sure. When asking management in our area (non phc) the manager stated Humana has a policy of not laying off during that time period for holiday reasons.
Below poster, does that mean no 60 day notice can be provided from November through Holidays? That would mean next round would have to be announced by end of next month the latest.
Or does that mean the termination date can not be November through Holidays? That would mean they could announce a round in November with a January term date.
Layoffs would have to come before Nov 1st. Humana has a policy of no layoffs November through Holidays.
It is "detrimental" to associates who planned their budgets and lives around "no more layoffs in 2017," only to be blindsided.
I'm grateful for this who have shared as well.
It actually is "detrimental" to the company to be sharing this info otherwise it would be freely shared. Leadership is not happy with the leaks
"However they share I'm thankful. It's not detrimental to company in any fashion. For all we know it could someone at the top posting cause he/she has a heart. Thankful!"
Agreed! There are folks planning families, paying medical bills, taking care of family members, paying mortgages, planning budgets, planning childcare or care for elderly family - these folks can benefit from information about job security and future reductions. If someone has the heart, the kindness, the courage to share and takes the time to share, I appreciate it tremendously.
Also curious how the SS and HBH roles will be affected by the upcoming rounds. Anyone have information on this?
However they share I'm thankful. It's not detrimental to company in any fashion. For all we know it could someone at the top posting cause he/she has a heart. Thankful!
It is obvious from reading the article referenced below, that the layoffs are being directed from the top not MF like so many want to blame and often refer to as satan. Which in business is generally how it's done.
Not sure why they didn't reduce the PHCs and CHEs by a greater number this time around if the goal is to have very few PHCs going forward. I am wondering how 💯has this information and feel it is very risky to share. I greatly appreciate it, but the list of people in the know for this type of info is small
Thank you for your input....is there any talk about changes with the HCM SS, or any plans to take back behavioral health and the HCM SS doing more of that?
1st- fcm do not all have full caseloads. 2nd- they will be safe unless it is decided to go with contract only and no actual in house fcm. That is what I referred to that is up in the air if this is going to happen or not no idea but is being discussed. This will be determined after year ends and how the regions feel fcms are doing which a lot are not happy. If fcms aware impacted it will be all.
Rns will be fine
Phc/che/rs 2 more rounds exact amount will be determined on new model, enrollment and 3rd/4th quarter #s and year end total #s. Again November/feb. A very small group of phcs will remain in the end and the role will change
Please don't show that article to my coach, who turns into a paranoid, stressed out, fear mongering micromanager when layoffs are about to go down.
This is going to be a rough ride! Working on finding something else.
Thanks for sharing that link. Yeah, no doubt about more layoffs:
" Humana CFO Brian Kane said that the optimization "continues apace and is proceeding a little faster than we had expected. We expect this optimization to continue into 2018."
The article below talks about layoffs continuing until 2018 just as 💯 stated
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bizjournals.com/louisville/news/2017/08/31/humana-reduces-at-home-care-workforce-in.amp.html
Agreed, below poster. It was pretty unambiguous when she said they "know the layoffs affect people personally," and they don't take it lightly and the hope was to "minimize" it.
Certainly not "no more layoffs, folks." I am glad they didn't BS us this time though.
The answer in the town hall sounded like a yes
Please be sure that this is correct about the fcm's. I am an FCM that check this site and this is alarming to me. Please provide more information. Why would you be privileged to the in home program?
I think the FCM s are only profitable if there's reimbursement from Medicare....do you all bill and get reimbursement?
💯, why would there be talks about fcm layoffs? They have full caseloads (profitable), and now that they do in home tele they'll remain full. That makes absolutely no sense.
Enrollment will increase in 2018. Once AEP starts in October, they will start to see if the projected enrollment is on target, higher than projected or lower. That is why there are no solid answers. It's too soon and they will adjust budgets up or down once the annual enrollment starts.
MF seems so annoyed every time the question about the future of PHC's is raised. He rushes through an answer and then a month or two later, more are let go.
We get it, if PHC calls are not financially beneficial, we get it, but don't get mad that there are people out there that, after witnessing layoff round after layoff round, have questions about the future. Why does that upset him?
Will this ever end? In each town hall they say there is a continued need for PHC and CHE roles, yet those are the biggest cuts. Now talk of 2 more layoffs? Just tell us the truth. We are adults and can handle it. Do the leaders think they are Jack Nicholson in A Few Good Men "You can't handle the truth!". Yes we can!
Yes I see RN's getting included in February if enrollment is not increased for 2018