What Every Seagate Employee Should Know

I am not the original author of this statement but I thought it too important not to have a main heading of it's own on this forum. It might be missed by some if they didn't go into topic to which it was an honest and well written reply...

"Ok. Let me tell you what is going on since your executives will not. SSD has taken out 15K & 10K enterprise HDD as well as PC HDD. When SSD's are deployed in all flash arrays in combination with de-duplication technology, the SSD capacity need is 1/3 that of HDD to serve the same data need. So SSD cost/gb only needs to get to 3X more than HDD to have total cost parity just on capacity. Throw in lower power consumption, better reliability, and faster performance and we see 100% SSD storage is already CHEAPER than HDD RIGHT NOW. Seagate SSD is limited by NAND supply and faces too many larger competitors with in house fabs. It can never compete, so that's out. It doesn't look like our cloud solutions have sufficient demand either to make up for this. Thus, the only major revenue making product Seagate can produce going into the future are the nearline high cap HDD. Think 10+TB. Well, it turns out we aren't doing well on the high cap drives right now with WD getting 80% market share in large markets. So, as Mr. Ponytail has told people all over who want to listen, if HAMR fails, Seagate is finished as a company with current strategic position we have been put into. So, to answer your question, a HAMR miracle is actually required within 2 years time (all the while NAND prices drop will accelerate), or SEAGATE IS FINISHED as a large international company. Turns out HAMR might have a while longer to go to mature than that. Make your own conclusion."

I hope the original author did not mind it being reposted here....thank you

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If the original statement was not credited, we can only conclude the Glorious Trump Leader man child made the statement. If it had a lot of facts and figures, math, technical content, then Trump-child-man must have originated it. He know his stuff good way. Way too good. Was there mention of a pussie or fat actress? That would be a dead Trump-child-man giveaway too.

So the only reason HAMR isn't working is because of Trump! Logic dictates.

HAMR has a deadlock: to get higher storage density you need to have a tiny tiny head tip but a small head tip drastically increases heating and hurts reliability. So even if Seagate make this technology work, its scalability is still questionable. People used to think that by smart thermal design the heating problem could be solved. But now people give up on that idea and just hope to find a miraculous material that could endure such heat.

I know a guy from VMware and he said VMware is not going to make any new products for HDD, and will only maintain the old ones till they die completely.

Steve Luczo said in the last earning call "the (HAMR) progress has actually been pretty substantial in the labs both on the reliability front, which was really the issue, and then on the demonstration of areal density front as well. "

This is public statement, you can find it on the internet (such as SeekingAlpha).

If the CEO himself admits that reliability was a real issue for HAMR, the real scenario could be much worse.

reply to -1fwu : All your HAMR life data numbers are way off and I believe you have very limited understanding of the reliability statistics. There are many challenges with HAMR, but median life time is not the current bottle neck. I understand your frustration from the company itself, however there is no need to demean folks working hard on HAMR and making significant improvements!

That's it exactly true hours and writes hours aren't the same thing

HAMR has huge challenge in reliability. I think the published lifetime record is about 1000 (1k) hours. But that is only a demo so don't take that number seriously. On the other hand, to make enterprise drives you need 95-99% drives sustain at least 20k hours. That means that the MEDIAN lifetime has to be at least 10x that number which is 200k hours. That is 1k (reality) vs 200k (goal) hours. Do your own math.

Thank you and also the original poster for sharing ur thoughts

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So you won't credit this statement and expect everyone to accept it came from someone internal?

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