Thread regarding Follett layoffs

Why does a degree matter so much?

Why does a degree matter so much? Many of our degreed RMs and upper echelon aren't great at what they do. Some of the best leaders in our company don't have a degree.

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A degree also indicates you can learn, discover, take direction, craft your own plan and execute against it. Hiring a 22 year old without a degree into a position that requires those abilities may work out. It's a higher risk hire, however.

Even the family requires its heirs go to college (and they don't have to understand a thing).

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Post ID: @4ama+Nlm6I3w

I would take experience over a degree any day and a degree should be only one of many factors in getting most positions.

However, to the person who told someone college teaches you to conform, only a bad college does.

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Post ID: @4dbk+Nlm6I3w

There is clear difference between someone who has a degree and someone who doesn't. Are there stupid people that have degree? Yes no doubt about it. But they are far fewer than people who don't have a degree. To be fair there are definitely people who very smart and are not "book nerd". I personally know pretty smart people who don't have any higher education. But they are exception to the norm.

Unless you have a degree from community college or one of those For-profit colleges, you are required to get out of your comfort zone to attain the degree. Getting a degree requires patience and determination at any university that is properly accredited. I have seen so many people in my life that have degree in their respective field and some that don't. People who don't have degree, from my anecdotal experience, are usually impatient and immature. They are usually good at ONE thing and one thing only, they find it very hard to adapt to new challenges. They also complain about every single thing. In short, you are dealing with one trick diva.

People with degree are usually not one trick diva and are more up to challenge. Many of them actually rise to challenge rather then whine on a board that is only supposed to inform people of layoffs and such. This is coming from a manager who has to deal with both set of demographics in their line of work.

I just love how people justify their inability to pass college as some disadvantaged Mensa genius.

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Post ID: @3ltk+Nlm6I3w

I had a professor ask me what I was going to do with a business degree. I told him run my own business. His reply..."then what are you doing here?" Me...learning to run a business. His response..."you are going about it all wrong." "College doesn't teach you how to think for yourself...it teaches you how to conform." "Sorry to tell you...you will be working for someone else the rest of your life." Unfortunately, he asked me this question a month before graduating. I wished it would have been asked earlier. I think I would have taken a different. approach.

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Post ID: @3jvs+Nlm6I3w

@Nlm6I3w-2qyv. Because a degreed person doesn't do that??

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Post ID: @2mrp+Nlm6I3w

So if a degree is not needed they might as well take it out of the requirements. Pretty much it should say" Reading, Writing and sitting in the office all day"

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Post ID: @2qyv+Nlm6I3w

A degree means you've learned about the basic, big ideas that came before you. A BA, AB, BS is a conservative measure of education. You've read the works of scholars. You've conducted studies using he methods that have been useful, up to now. You understand what came before you. It also means you can complete a complex task over time.

All of those things are useful. There are exceptional people who are endlessly curious and acquire skills and knowledge without attending college. These people are worth hiring and following.

Can't you say the same about exceptional people who have a degree, too. So doesn't the argument really boil down to exceptional people are worth following.

There are few in follett's leadership ranks who are exceptional. What does that say about the company's future?

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Post ID: @1mph+Nlm6I3w

I have worked with four different "college educated" people at Follett as coworkers.

3 out of the 4 were complete morons, but the manager probably to this days thinks they were great..

Thank God I found a company that goes for common sense over book smarts!

Follett needs to get a clue, they have many non degreed employees that are way smarter then the degreed employees.

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Post ID: @qdh+Nlm6I3w

If someone can evaluate a person 100% accurately, there is no need of degree, just knowledge, talent and drive in your brain.

Since people who recruit you are ordinary people, the same concept why tiffany works in Jewelry, is the same concept why degree works on a person.

The more brain dead the recruiter is : the more useful a degree and which school you are from will work.

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