The 9/80 work week was great 20 years ago when it started and nobody cared about business as prices rose. But we can no longer afford it now that low prices are here to stay. It wipes out at least one work day per week, which is 20% of our effectiveness. ExxonMobil never did 9/80 because they knew it was a joke. When everyone is working flat out, as they should be in this environment, including the occasional weekend or evening, Fridays off makes no sense. We could end the program and reduce staff 15-20% overnight.
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So, effectively the Brazil BU is losing money each day if the break even point is $65 per barrel and their production has been falling year after years. Not only is this sad, but reckless. This should be the next asset that is sold to justify supporting the damn dividend.
I am in technical supporting in ETC and went to the Brazil Chevron. I was doing consulting work for a week. The managers were busy for the whole weeks attending many meetings (I estimate 60% of their time). I guess they are meeting in order to find more reasons for meeting. They had to justify their existence. The Brazil BU has no active well work or drilling for the past 9 years and won't have any soon. The break even point is $65 per barrel and their production is falling years after years. SAD.
2tkc - The word should be "Accountability", but it's not an actionable word at Chevron. If management and employeees were held accountable for their time and the decisions made in meetings, we probably wouldn't have any at all.
Most of the management are slackers. They probably spend 15+ hours each week sitting in meetings and scheduling the next meeting. At chevron, it is a sign of status to be in as many meetings as possible. Seriously, how much real individual decision making and staff interactions do most of the managers really do?
2fvd, I too disable RSIGuard first thing each day after rebooting my PC. Open the Task Manager (Control-Alt-Delete), select the Processes tab and delete the Service for the RSIGuard that is running.
2tas - The slackers at Chevron are not so easy for management to ID? Yet you can spot them a mile away. Give me a break. We know who the d---beats are. They don't get fired because they are the bosses buddies.
ABU do 8-5 to get a CWW lol
@2ufy, you know there is a way to disable the RSIGuard, right? It's the first thing I do every time I reboot.
You want to save some work force coin, kill workpace! It takes more than Ten percent of our time and there is no scientific evidence it is effective. Might be useful for data entry folks in a chain gang, so studies have shown bentifit for general office workers. Ask the Ergo professionals, they know, but management wants to think they are doing something for safety... bull shi$, but BBS on the dangers of office worker paper cuts was getting old!
What is your problem! Ya let's make our workplace less accommodating by making folks punch a time clock and have more top down bull rules that have nothing to do with productivity. Look joe is leaving early he must be a real slacker... or maybe he was here late last night in meetings across the globe, maybe his wife is going in another cancer treatment and needs his support, or maybe joe is just sick to death of the pin head moron in the next office who contributes nothing but b--ches to his manager (mommy) anything he finds to be "irregular". We do not build a better workforce by focusing on our a--holes. I say this as a workaholic who sometimes is in the office past midnight and other times gets in at lunchtime. My managers judge me by my productivity (which at the end accounting includes an 80 plus hour work week... of which they are well aware) not by the warm of my seat at 8 am. If you want military regularity join Exxon. I was hoping the downturn would have purged a greater percent of the workplace a--holes, but sadly I guess that was not so easy for management to ID... our loss.
I spent many long days and hours working at chevron. During my career. I was often called a workaholic.
Several patents and recognition awards. All was meaningless and I was released this past summer. My advice to current employees is to milk it for all you can. Chevron management are the worst abusers. Why subsidize them
Exxon is well managed. CVX is run by PC liberals.
XOM never went 9/80 because it realized that in a global business with many technical functions in Houston or USA...then foreign businesses would be unsupported for many days at times due to time zone differences, work day (Middle east works Sun thru Thurs) and different foreign holiday schedule, especially on the alternate Fridays if 9/80 in place. XOM's Canada business has worked alternate Fridays off by law for many years and there were always productivity issues. Standard 40 hour week works best to maximize coverage and support for a global business, when key personnel are Houston based.
Instead XOM implemented very flexible work from home and personal time off for doctor/dentist/kids issues.
The 9/80 schedule was originally implemented in California as a way to reduce commuting (and its associated air pollution) by ten percent. I believe each company over a certain size was required by the AQMD to develop a plan and have it approved. I suspect that something similar might be required in Houston by the Fed's.
1kyo, You got the stickeye from the 9/80 crowd because they all thought you were working the same work schedule as they were. Very common reaction when 99% of all employees work on the "alternate work schedule". I assume you no longer work at Chevron. Sorry if that's the case. But if you're still on the job, post a small sign below your name tag outside your office or cubicle, stating "I work the 5/40 (or 10/80) schedule".
I worked 5/2 for many years while 99% were working 9/80. I always got the stinkeye from the 9/80 types when I left on time (except for Friday when they were never there).
Agreed. Captain JW did it. He ran the Chevron ship aground. Fire him.
The company is not in the position it is because of 9/80 or the workforce in general.
Chevron is where it is because of risks taken by people at the top and the consequences of those risks. Working people longer, ensuring integrity, etc... will not bring Chevron back.
Blaming the worker for state Chevron is in is like blaming the ships cook when a ship runs aground..maybe if he had worked longer,harder, and made better meals, it wouldn't have happened...... Chevron is a ship run aground...it's the captain who did it
HR does keep employee attendance records and badge in and out history. It's used as backup for disciplinary action or layoff decisions. I'm not sure why supervisors don't use the available information to address wayward employees, but alas, the company does have these records. HR also keeps IT records of information about each employees internet usage. Be aware this activity is also monitored and log files are kept by HR.
@-eit, I'm pretty sure you meant working 9 hours, and taking an hour lunch, hence you need to be at the office 10 full hours to truthfully work 9 hours. That's another good point that you brought up - the poor pathetic time stealing souls who are naive enough to think that other employees and management ACTUALLY BELIEVE it when they say they are "WORKING THROUGH LUNCH DAILY" during the normal company lunch hour of 11:30-12:30 or whenever. I have been in this business for many many many years. VERY few people actually WORK during lunch and those who do , don't often. VERY VERY few and rare= FACT. Having a work related app. , Email or spreadsheet open for show is not work. The honest employees in your group will work their day (9 hours, 8 on work fri) and take their lunch hour or half hour, whatever it may be. They will be there longer than 9 (or 8 on Fri) hours, if honest. Sorry to break the news to you guys who think you have been successfully pulling that off believably without detection.
9/80 means working 10 hours a day on non-Fridays (and this includes 1 hour of company-encouraged lunch time). There is a lot of abuse amongst many employees. Easily fixed by sending supervisors weekly reports of when employees badge in and badge out.
On the floors with which I am familiar in the Houston towers, you will be lucky to find 5% of the workforce after 2 pm on any Friday. Now have a look at ExxonMobil, Shell or BP. A buddy of mine at Exxon has regular team meetings Fridays at 3 pm.
Chevron has poor culture and poor supervision. The supervisors are the first ones out the door!
I saw examples of slackers on a daily basis at both towers in Houston. Many employees would show up at 8:00, take 1hour lunch, and leave at 4:00 - 4:30. Some who had opposite schedule from the manager would take off both Fridays. I would bet that well over half the employees only worked 70 hours or less on a 9/80 schedule. I believe that a standard 10/80 work schedule would stop a lot of the slacking. The elevators at 4:00 pm are literally packed with people going home. Obviously, there is no one monitoring the smart badge in and out times. Also, I have worked with 6 people in my career who all died from heart attacks. They were in the early 40's to early 60's and were all serious workaholics. Sometimes getting laid off may actually be a blessing for your longevity.
hzq - You are not addressing the root cause for your complaint. The 9/80 work schedule does not contribute to less work or productivity. The few slacker employees that abuse the privilege of having a work-life balanced work schedule need to be fired as well as their supervisors who allow that behavior to continue. Make them an example to everyone else and... voila - problem solved.
Agree, get rid of the 9/80 and reduce workforce 30 percent to ensure only the the remaining workforce is spending time & effort on the necessary value adding work. Everyone knows we are over-staffed w/ a lot of unnecessary work being done.
@NhgmGJQ-clo, You are quite correct, but the 9-80 itself is not the real culprit, it's the lack of integrity of the lying, cheating conniving, slacking, stealing time from the company employees. You are illustrating an example of hiring or keeping lying, cheating, time-stealing employees, not an example of any particular schedule being an issue. One can cheat time on any schedule. We (I am a contractor) went to a 4-10 schedule for some of the jobs that I was on over the years and a few people used to their schedule, for whatever reason, decided to cheat then, and not work the required 10 hours, as you described it keep working 8's or maybe barely work 9's, then still take Friday off. You would think that an employee would appreciate the opportunity to take every Friday off or every other, at the expense of a couple more hours a day and have a little self-respect and enough dignity not to lie, cheat and steal from their co-workers. That's who ultimately pays, not the company, you are screwing your co-workers is all, when you do that, It's a long established fact. The 4 ten has always been touted as more efficient for employer and employee, less utilities required and one less commute day a week.
However, there will always be cheaters, stealers and thieves. It's a wonder employees don't look at stealing time the same way as stealing anything else.
For example - to counter your argument, how does a person hired to work the 9-80 from the get go - which is many of the CVX workforce, not observe the correct schedule that they agreed to work on their contract or job acceptance agreement? It's not like they "kept on working 8's".
They should simply be better policing and discipline/firing. Everyone would cry like little babies but, in my long experience, it's the only solution. An hours pay for an hours work. No more, no less. And no, you don't "deserve more" because in your mind you think that you are that much more valuable. Everyone thinks that. You're nothing special.
9/80 is a joke. I have seen first hand how it is regularly abused...particularly at Briarpark qnd Covington. People work an 8 hour day everyday and still take their Friday off...and leave early on that day to boot.
There is more to life than work. I lost 3 friends in last 18months to 1 x heart attack, cancer x 2. Workaholics. Age 53/58/59. One just 6 months from retiring after 30 years doing everything company told him too. Kids devastated. All plans for retirement buried with them. Keep 9/80
Ridiculous suggestion. Drop the 9/80 work schedule and both morale and productivity will fall off the chart.
If the productivity per hour is the same 9/80 or 10/80 shouldn't matter because 9/80 or regular 10/80 still has 80 hours every two weeks.
Are you kidding me? Even for a 10/80 schedule, most employees are working from 7am to 6pm. At least a 9/80 will be an excuse for work life balance or I have the chance to visit a doctor or dentist or to drive my kids and drop them off at school.