Thread regarding Sears layoffs

how long sears has left.

Before I get into it I have assumed that Lampert will take this thing to the bitter end, which if suppliers allow will mean he sells off and the company burns through every last asset left.

costs and cash burn per year

  1. the company is currently burning through about $175 million in cash every month, this is not goodwill or funny money but cash that needs to be spent to keep the light on and the losses going.

  2. They had circa $250 million of cash at hand as of end of 1st quarter so without another cash injection from Lampert or an asset sale they run of cash sometime this month

  3. Their pension contribution for 2017 of circa $400 million to the pbcg has been covered by the craftsmen sale so they are good on that for this year.

  4. While they will hit $1 billion in cost saves in 2017 that is not enough to offset the same store sale and comp declines resulting in the $175 million monthly cash burn increasing.

  5. $400million of the $500 million debt due in july has been kicked down the road to either be paid in 6 or 12 months along with a hefty $33 million fee for doing that and the increased interest charges all weighing on the balance sheet- this has been covered before but the pushing out of the loan repayment is significant in terms of bankruptcy- any repayment of the loan would have probably been subject to it being clawed back in the event of bankruptcy in a year it will not. Nevertheless sears still needs to find $100millon in july to repay eddie.

  6. Sales continue to deteriorate - the company cannot close stores fast enough. I expect the same 10% or so year on year same store sales for the rest of the year and an additional $3 billion in annual sales to be lost for 2017.

  7. Inventory continues to fall as does the ability for sears to negotiate bulk discounts

  8. $1.8 billion in long term debt is due to be repaid in October 2018 and some smaller debt due in October 2017.

  9. So they will need around $1.6 billion in liquidity to get through the rest of this year less the $250 million cash at hand, plus whatever on top for seasonal stock purchases which must now be cash on delivery with the suppliers.

lets look at where they could potentially raise that money and the valuations

  1. real estate- much has been made of this- few realise that there are now only 150 unencumbered properties left. These are generally considered to be less valuable than the ones sold to seritage and their value to dropping daily. We were told that there was a potential deal for $700 million for 70 of them. So a valuation of $1.5 billion for the 150 seems reasonable.

  2. leases- they will have a number of leases that are under market value that could be montized as they vacate stores - i am going to suggest there are 250 leases with value for an amount of $500 million

3.kenmore/diehard- as more and more sears stores close these brands lose more value, appliances do not have the markup that tools do so Kenmore less valuable than craftsmen- lets say $500 million for both.

  1. Innovel solutions - mainly delivers to sears holdings, but has some warehouses and trucks - lets say $250 million

  2. Sears auto centres- worthless

  3. Sears home services- growing and profitable $1 billion

  4. Inventory - falling and cannot be monetized as an asset since they would have nothing to sell

  5. syw data- internet sales are falling and syw is a disaster - worthless

  6. total assets that could be monetized roughly $3.75 billion and some may say i have been generous

So Sears holding needs to raise $1.5 billion or so to get through the rest of this year and $2 billion in 2018. But there are over $2.3 billion of loans due to be repaid in 2018 as well as $400 million in pbcg contributions.

I think its safe to say that Lampert will announce asset sales shortly that should give them enough to get through the rest of this year, but its clear they cannot get much beyond mid 2018.

All this assumes that suppliers continue to supply and that there is not a steeper decline in sales and comp. I should caveat that i do not envisage a scenario where ebitida turns positive to offset declines.

All comments welcome and whether you are a bull or a bear I wish you all the best.

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Post ID: @OP+NGZYhLC

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July 10th or shortly thereafter.

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4063238-sears-holdings-bankruptcy-filing-expected-july-10-soon

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Post ID: @3gov+NGZYhLC

@1ewf- thanks for you post- agreed there are some stand alone sac that have real estate value however, I had included those amounts for the real estate/leases in my calculations for those two asset line items ($1.5 billion and $500 million respectfully). That leaves the sac business valuation left /goodwill etc- it has been on the block for such a long time with no takers and in a deteriorating environment that I came to the conclusion it is worthless. What makes it virtually impossible to sell is the myriad of real estate that Lampert has pledged to himself and others as collateral, the unencumbered sac numbers are tiny - in the tens of stores- what would someone be willing to pay for the current business/goodwill/ of less than 40 sears auto centres that could feasibly be sold as stand alones (I.e lease at face value) ? All the best.

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Post ID: @1iaa+NGZYhLC

1eoo--you can know the end game. Eddie, while not exactly the most trustworthy person is no idiot. He knows exactly what he is doing. Just read the financials where it says that the company is working to get the most for the shareholders (eddie, bruce and a few others) and not trying to keep SHC in business. It also talks about forward looking statements and how they are just dream or a reality if it benefits the stockholder ..once again Eddie and Bruce. Get a clue this is not about transformation or even keeping Sears/Kmart in business, it is about getting the most money out of the company for the profit and benefit of the shareholders (Eddie and Bruce)

There was an article a few years back where Eddie said that it was not about the emplyees or even staying in business but about making as much as they can for the shareholders (Eddie and Bruce)

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Post ID: @1uyz+NGZYhLC

While I agree with most of these points, saying that the auto centers are worthless shows that you do not understand the situation (at least in regards to the SACs)

While SACs that are within the main store can be worthless, there are quite a few stand alone stores that are highly desired properties since they are outside the malls, on a ring road surrounding the mall. I knew of multiple location that were worth 3M+ and while thats peanuts compared to the $175 million a month operating cost, it is still well above worthless.

Also, there is always the potential of a buyout or spinoff of automotive, the spin off being much less likely, but there is the possibility especially with the rebranding of some of the SACs to Diehard Auto Centers.

There is a lot of money to be made via the SACs since the profit on labor is so high, that said they cannot carry such a large failing company.

So the real question is, will Eddie do things like sell more profitable stand alone SACs (done a few years ago in California) for the quick cash or will he leave them as offsets to bad stores when he tries to get the most money by selling off the whole bunch?

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Post ID: @1ewf+NGZYhLC

If it is collateral for a loan, its not unencumbered.

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Post ID: @1svn+NGZYhLC

One cannot forget that sears still owns the Costa mesa, california store, probably their crown jewel. The store is over 330,000 square feet and South Coast Plaza (it's mall) square footage is valued at over $1000 per square foot. There was an interesting article about it the other day as it is collateral for one of Eddie ' s loans.

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Post ID: @1qep+NGZYhLC

@xnr What do you mean by ungrateful? For me there is nothing new or earth shattering here.... also there is so much more to all of this that we as associates arent aware. We just have to all admit that we dont know what the future brings, and that makes people uneasy. If this helps associates feel better great. For me it is nothing new just a re hash of all the articles and the what ifs. The only person who knows the end game is Eddie.

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Post ID: @1eoo+NGZYhLC

zor- yes you will do better elsewhere- as bizarre as it sounds sears trained auto centre employees and workers are well valued outside the organization just not within it. Keep positive - better times for you are ahead- as an aside big thanks to the op for this post, just about the best I have read on this website and for the person @msd who posted the first comment you are an ungrateful individual who has totally missed the point as the subsequent posts indicate.

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Post ID: @xnr+NGZYhLC

I'm a store level associate & I found this very interesting. I know some of it already but it's nice to see it all laid out there in one place.

IMO, the auto centers are worthless for resale at least here in the northeast. There's enough competent competition that they are no longer needed.

The mechanics who work there will probably do better elsewhere.

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Post ID: @zor+NGZYhLC

Kqu- thanks. That makes sense about the fact that they aren't worth much because they're (mostly) physically attached to stores.

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Post ID: @xtj+NGZYhLC

You are so correct, this is going to be a major issue:

It will be a struggle for sears to self fund holiday inventory

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Post ID: @azv+NGZYhLC

zxr- agreed, one of my caveats was that the suppliers continue to play ball which it seems they are slowly beginning not to. It will be a struggle for sears to self fund holiday inventory- if they could sell all of the assets I mentioned in the next 3-6 months (highly unlikely) they may have a shot at 2017 Christmas but then it becomes a question of whats the point?

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Post ID: @rwx+NGZYhLC

usx- op here- yes agreed, the auto centres have two issues related to them - the one you have put forward (years on and still no interest) as well as the fact that a number of the auto centres are in/tied to physical stores, when they shut the auto centre closes with it.

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Post ID: @kqa+NGZYhLC

@crh - An item is worth only what the market is willing to pay for it. To date, I've not heard of any entity that has expressed any desire to purchase the Sears auto centers. Therefore, the auto centers have zero market value. The auto centers' fixtures and equipment would hold some liquidation value, but the market would determine what that is.

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Post ID: @usx+NGZYhLC

you can't get anywhere near that far without liquidity to purchase inventory on worsening terms if not up front payment

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Post ID: @zxr+NGZYhLC

@msd - judging based on the post content, we have very little associates in this site - it is mostly corporate people that post here

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Post ID: @aep+NGZYhLC

Wow! What a write up!

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Post ID: @bdn+NGZYhLC

This is a great post - thank you for taking time to put this together. Good thinking and reasonable assumptions/statements!

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Post ID: @twx+NGZYhLC

Great post OP thanks for you analysis and opinion. Also would like to add overall economy with some of this cuts happening (politically) will also dramatically affect Sears.

@dge I think he means overall its not profiting.

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Post ID: @wqt+NGZYhLC

@dge Auto centers are not worthless in any sense. The OP Is just putting forth his opinion....nothing more than an opinion.

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Post ID: @crh+NGZYhLC

Just curious...why do you believe auto centers to be worthless? The one in my store seems to be busy constantly.

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Post ID: @dge+NGZYhLC

great thorough post op- many thanks.

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Post ID: @tdg+NGZYhLC

good post- kinda think suppliers will kill this off sooner rather than later

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Post ID: @ibq+NGZYhLC

bankruptcy affects associates- the more time they have to prepare the better- thanks to the op for the post imo

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Post ID: @kht+NGZYhLC

This is kind of a funny post as I thought this was supposed to be a forum for associates. Unless someone is off, who on earth has time to go on and one like this?

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