Thread regarding Avaya layoffs

Seen it all before

It's not unusual for high relative contributors to be let go while other workers (some good, some OK, some bad) are kept on. I've actually seen a person receive their bonus for their contribution (at a time when not everyone got a bonus) and then get their layoff notification the next day. It's not common but it's not all that rare, and people who have been around for a while are not shocked by this.

When it happens, it certainly feels like a kick in the teeth. If severance is being paid now, being laid off now could be seen as a gift in comparison to being laid off later with no severance.

But here's the thing - why is anyone sticking around a company that is obviously doomed and whose products are looking increasingly lame as time goes on? There are probably a few good reasons, e.g. hoping to get that severance package, but if someone hasn't started looking around for better employment at this point, you have to wonder whether they just feel unable to find work anywhere else.

I was there for a long long time and saw the products and quality declining as the directions from the executives and decisions on product investments got stupider and stupider. Eventually I had seen enough and it was pretty easy to get a better job with a company with a brighter future. If I can do it, anyone can do it. You have to ask yourself what is gained by staying the course.

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Post ID: @OP+MxhmHeG

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HRC means High Relative Contributors

At Avaya everyone is rated either high, sucessful or low relative contributor (HRC, SRC, LRC) every year.

Normally LRC's are the ones who go first when there is a reduction.

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Post ID: @3ezl+MxhmHeG

Wat does HRC mean..

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Post ID: @2pix+MxhmHeG

What a load of rubbish I may be unique but I have seen a massive increase in purchasing from my accounts. New products all received well by customers. The debt acrewed from VC leveraged purchase once reduced will leave us in a great position in FY18. Is the company perfect no but is any business of this size. Those doom merchants create your own self for filling future.

The business has taken a sensible approach to targets to look after the quota carrying personnel. If you don't like your job then do something about it I am sure the rest of us will survive with out you.

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Post ID: @1azt+MxhmHeG

Re HRC

Can you be FMP'd if you are a HRC sure but likley only if whole group shut down. Some director thought enough of you to rank you near the top of his team sobif he has to make a 50% cut he will almost certainly use the same ranking draw a line in the middle and cut all below the line.

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Post ID: @1vpz+MxhmHeG

If you have the slightest conscience left, leave now. AVAYA is in a very bad shape. It is not 'business as usual'. Forget about that. Your loyalty is of no value. Move on. Search for other opportunities if you have not. Certainly not a company you should represent. You are worth much more.

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Post ID: @1pio+MxhmHeG

i could testify and prove it ....

hrc + bonuses then gone ...

as they say; it was not personal ,

it just was outcome from some US based reorg decision , top down ,

probably taken after they had problem at home and wanted some kind of revenge somewhere ..!..

cost reduction was really not in the picture based on severance package ...

just decision ; (sense or non sense does not matter)

perhaps to demonstrate they are doing something (severance packages are charged on others CC,

so they can claim they nicely manage their bugdet ; which is looking better )

good chance for middle management to demonstrate they execute well

so yes; you can receive your hrc letter and your notification letter the next following month, indeed; there is no relationship (good to know)

J

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Post ID: @1pjp+MxhmHeG

So you mean to say even though I am HRC, I can be fired by the will of managers.

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Post ID: @1nsg+MxhmHeG

Very well said. This is absolutely right.

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Post ID: @1pzi+MxhmHeG

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