I attended a meeting with THE IBEW and LISTENED to what they had to say and after DOING MY OWN RESEARCH, I found that it is ALTICE has been the ones LYING to us!!! Altice told us that you would get less with a contract, when in fact ALL OF THE UNION shops in our field are making a lot MORE then we do with BETTER benefits.....Not to mention a PENSION!!!! Remember when we had one of those!!!! Since meeting with the ibew it has opened my eyes and made me think HOW WILL I EVER BE ABLE TO RETIRE?! The changes made by this company will take $6,000 out of OUR pockets every year!!!!!!! And that is for ALL of us weather your the best or worst tech! Now after all they have SLASHED from US, they can look at me with a straight face and give me an option to move to ATS with no answers and a 10% PAY CUT!! I was not a pro or anti union guy, but after these aggressive cuts, mass layoffs and Alices track record, I can see we NEED to join!!! Do your selves a favor and DO YOUR RESERCH and GO TO A MEETING WITH THE IBEW!!! I am a long time employee and my self and a lot of us are kicking ourselves for not doing this 5 YEARS ago when we had a chance. At least we would not have been SLASHED $6,000!!!
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I find it funny that you would trash a union trip for making 150k, but are perfectly ok with your CEO picking your pocket while making 400, million? Seriously?
COME TO THE THURSDAY MEETING!!! ASK QUESTIONS!!!!! DON'T LET THIS OPPORTUNITY PASS YOU BY!!! THE IBEW HAS BEEN AT THIS FOR 125 YEARS!!!!
Meeting for Hauppauge and Brookhaven 8pm Thursday. IBEW hall Holtsville
You really have to just shake your head at the persistence of management trolling this website.
until guys see that management has been dividing us for decades, we can never unite
You really have to just shake your head at the stupidity of some people. If you are deeply bothered because the union reps make a bit more money BUT don't see that at the same time the upper executives of the company are making millions while taking sh1t away from you then you deserve what's coming.
Weather you are pro or anti union you must read this to understand what this company has in store for us with Dexter and Patrick at the helm.
http://stopthecap.com/2017/01/04/siren-song-altice-usa-ceo-asks-workers-trust-despite-ruthless-cost-cutting-reputation/
And through all the union bashing and BS, still not one anti union person has been able to give a specific example of any lies told by the IBEW.... While we can and have pointed out many times Altice has lied...
Stop arguing with that corporate troll he is management you are wasting your time.
1qhn,
So you don't like the fact that these guys (in your words) make $150k? Sounds like your too busy counting someone else's beans instead of counting your own. That jealousy thing is a b--ch ain't it!
Take a look at the cellphone your probably holding in your hand right now. Who is your provider? VZ, ATT, Sprint, TMobile? Why don't you go with the cheapest option like Tracphone, or worse Freewheel? I will tell you why. Because you are paying for a service that you expect to work, and work well! For you!
And you stated, "So it's a coincidence these business reps make $50k more in an 8 year period at the same time membership numbers increase."..........what do you think happens to PoinDexter and OshKoshPegosh paychecks when profits rise at Altice due to labor costs (i.e. our paychecks) going down into the $hitter?
Again, nothing can be said that is good about Altice and you cant tell us one thing the guys from the IBEW said that was not true. Go get your Shine Box...
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To the person that's saying these union reps. make money and that's not ok.
Your argument is weak. I would ask you this question:
If God forbid you ever have to go to court for something do you want to represented by a free public defender that's fresh out of law school and has no idea yet of what they are doing or a well-paid, well-educated lawyer that has years of experience?
Just because they earn a living doesn't make them bad people.
If someone is willing to represent me for free, I would question their credentials.
If your a tech hopefully you have 6 months left, if your management your probably gone by April. But you sound like someone that lives in mommy's basement,with mustard in your belly button eating bologna.
So it's a coincidence that the business reps make $50,000 more in an 8 year period at the same time membership numbers increase. That's more than 1/2 of the techs make, and that's just their raises. These mafia wannabes make $150k+ For what???? Not for profit because it goes to their salaries.
Mr. How much are you a field tech or management?
Enlighten me... How much.... Cuz remember they're not for profit organizations with any money made going back to members to benefit them...they're classified by IRS as 501(c)5...you can look that up... But please enlighten me..... How much?
All the information they gave me I took it upon myself to research and found what they told me was accurate… Sounds like your company stooge…
Hey mr. $6,000. You sound like one of a--holes always trying to get rid of a job because for some reason you still haven't figured you out what the f you are doing.
They have no incentive to sell us anything? Do you have any idea how much money they make if only one shop signs on with them?
They have no incentive to sell us anything, we went to them. They'll be just fine without us remember that. We'll be the ones regretting it. You have no reason not to trust them. We have the most to lose so hopefully people wake up. I don't trust anything the a-- hats we work with say or do anymore. No answers and certainly no transparancy.
You mean the salesman at the IBEW sold you???? Shocking
I went to a meeting also. All those clowns think they are in the mafia and spew the same garbage that management spews. Can't trust anybody.
"wax on wax off Daniel-san" --- long time employee finally see light.
now run back to shop, enlighten other technicians "Daniel-san"
If hurry, maybe you vote union before Altice send everybody to ATS slaughterhouse.
Remember....be brave and no listen management, they lie.
Sayōnara Daniel-san
All very true. Step back and take a good look at the ATS email you recieved.
-from Altice-
"We have a wonderful job opportunity for you! Come join a new company (ATS) and agree to make less money with the possibility of a year-end bonus!
-Sure we just eliminated the year-end holiday bonus at Altice which is an indication that we don't like to pay bonuses but "trust us" on the ATS bonus.
-yes you were promised that employee compensation would not change for a period of one year and that was a lie but "trust us" on the ATS thing.
-we will try to sell the idea of ATS as a wonderful opportunity to start at a new company at its beginning stages when in actuality it is a way to circumvent the agreements we made with regulators when Cablevision sale was being approved
-the internet is full of NEGATIVE articles about the way Altice treats its employees and vendors both here in the U.S. and other countries as well but you should "trust us" it will be different this time
-when it comes to paying vendors. Imagine that you have provided a product or service to Altice for an agreed upon price. Then after supplying that product or providing that service it is time for you to be paid. Then you get a call from Altice saying, "Um...... we don't want to pay that much so here's less $$ than we agreed upon. If you don't like it too bad!" This is the culture of the people we are dealing with. This is the culture of the people that are asking us to "trust them"
Talking to AOMs and SUPs will get you no honest info. And honestly I don't blame lower management. They have to say what they are told to say or their a$$es will be out in street looking for a job. They have families to feed too. I honestly don't hold any grudges against them for giving us these preprogrammed responses to our questions and fears.
Guys I have spoken off the record and outside of work hours to several people in lower management that I know personally. They have all said that if it was their son or daughter they were giving advice to that they would recommend we vote "YES" to union representation.
I know the majority of FS techs are in their 20's and 30's and maybe not thinking long term at this point in their lives. I would encourage you to seek the advice of someone twice your age on this matter. It could be anybody, your parent, grandparent, aunt/uncle, your neighbor with the driveway that you help shovel snow from, that old guy that's always at the deli every morning......anybody. Trust me when I tell you that sharing advice is one of the things that older folks like to do most in this world. It is perhaps the most valuable thing on earth that you can get for free!
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I would have to agree, you need to hear both sides of the story. Not just Corporate telling lie upon lie. A main reason corporations don't want unions is because of power. With a union presents the workers have power.