Looks like they started terminating people who "didn't follow the WFH Policy". They announced another one on a call yesterday. Director level. I was hoping the "have to work in an office for absolutely no reason" would have died down by now and we could all go back to being productive. Guess not.
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The actions for legal is not to review the new policy but to make an offer of severance in order to protect themselves.
My case went to legal and it took 2 weeks.
I was terminated with full severance, 200 hours of banked vacation, medical through severance period and I hit my MIP today. It was the best I could have hoped for but a bridge would have been nice,
I'm do glad to be gone as is my family.
Anyone given an exception for the WFH?
Someone posted a new post that they were layed off today with severance because of not conforming to the non-WFH policy.
Severance is being paid out.
Any word on possibility of severance? My management says it would probably be offered. My manager asked HR this a month ago and HR said under the circumstances, that relocating is an unreasonable request and relocating assistance is not offered, it will probably be offered. I hope so, it is time for closure and time to move on.
Thanks. I'll post when I hear anything or notified.
Yes my case is at legal and we should all hear back this week I was told.
I'll let you know when I hear something, hope you'll let us know here too,
I declined the request to report back to the office, 400 miles away, in writing a month ago today. I was told last week by HR it was in Legal review. Don't know when HR or Corporate sent it to Legal. Policy also has been updated to add legal spin. Anyone else had to submit an intent yet or have gotten a response or options? Any due date known?
Don't continue to go yo an entry level HR paper pusher. I went to the director and they had all the answered the first time. When I asked my local HR goon, he knew nothing snd bonyunurd to say they weren't looking into anything and he doubted if they would while all along they were.
Don't give up!
8rcf It is quite simple why I visit this site for any insight on this issue. I have spoken to my HR rep with numerous questions a few times a week since early January, each and every week until I am blue in the face. Same responses like a recording...no status, no guidance, honestly we don't know what to do, so sorry this is happening to you, we hope to get this resolved soon BS. So everyone take this person' s advice and reach to your local HR representative and if you get a response different than what I have listed please enlighten us. I have drunk the last cup of this company's koolaide....but I will hold out for the severance package and take vacation until it is resolved. BTW, thanks for all the free time off.
Why doesn't everyone that has questions on the WFH issue go talk to HR? It's been decided they're just waiting for you to not comply. After review, they will provide you with options while you continue to work from home. Then and only then you'll have the facts and can make an educated decision. Don't rely on this site as it does no good to resolve a Honeyhell issue. You'll have to deal with them sooner or later. Make it in your terms.
My manager told me the same thing but didn't know how long the process will take, I'm hearing by March 31 so I'll continue to WFH
All determinations will be made by legal per HR then flowed back to employee.
Severance is a strong possibility
I have only heard of one exception. That person is in Marketing Face to Face with customers. Any Engineering exceptions known that are medical related?
-7igo's management and leadership team are fantastic! At least one group willing to stand up to ALT and go for the exceptions that were allowed case by case. The rest of the crew needs to take heart from this and take the risk to keep their WFH employees.
7mh1 were you informed about the severance by HR or Manager?
Maybe there should have been some collaboration before the policy rollout...Just saying.
To be fair..... I think this WFH thing caught HR off guard as anyone else, legal is so deep into this but I was informed I will get medical insurance with severance if I just say NO.
how can you work form home if you have to come into the plant and stamp your time card. and sit at your 1950s metal desk. and type something on your IBM type writer. and have a cigarette and a scotch? Have times really changed that much?
I am remote employee and have been for several years, got my performance review today and merit increase. My manager said my performance is stellar as always. Our direct management cares about its employees and said abolishing work from home makes zero sense especially when we are severely understaffed and here we are showing extremely talented people the door.
I am sure that if a WFH employee case resulted in a termination with no severance or simply fired that person or someone else would have posted this by now. It is a small world.
Not true. I've known several long term employees get fired after a PIP and they did get severance. As soon as 2016 thus has occurred on tro separate occasions at Phx. Engines
Either way, I'll work and get paid until they fire me and stop paying me all the while WFH
In every case that I know of that has been resolved so far comes down to this:
1) Come in to the plant
2) Quit (or retire)
3) Get fired.
Plus, you don't get severance if you quit, retire, or get fired.
My guess is that HR will give us all until then for a hand off of info to our respective manager or the person taking on our current duties.
Just a thought, nothing stated
Honestly I haven't felt well since this policy came out but feel a little better now since closure is soon. BTW what does the March 31st date have to do with this???
Sick days
Don't forget those D--k days freebies
Time to start using some of that unlimited vacation...I can be reached by cell.
Not sure but there will be an option at that time so keep working from home and keep getting a paycheck,
I doubt they give anyone an acception now since that was determined from corporate.
Don't leave money in the table. Make em pay.
Does this there will be no exceptions granted? Closest site to me is over 120 miles one way. Drive or separate?
I've been told the same thing and it's on a case by case basis.
I was told three weeks after stating your reasons not to comply, legal will provide an answer back. I guess more like 4 weeks as I'm sure with all the activity, they're a little busy.
I heard once legal has completed review, they will provide options. That could mean drive or else or possibly severance. Either way you'll have the option st that time.
You should be hearing within a week as I wa told before March 31 once I decline.
Good luck
HR requested that I had respond in writing of my intent almost two weeks ago. I did with reason why I can't comply. I guess now they are requiring an official response from everyone who is WFH. Legal must be requiring this. So responding with No means separation from company or possible exception to the policy?
Officially respond to orders to go to site and say No and state the reasons. They will forward to legal and they will respond with options.
6wek Is the communication you are referring to for HR to take action or employee options or both. I spoke with HR today and was told the WFH should be resolved very soon. I also asked was full time work permitted from home and the response was no.
March 31st can't come soon enough. Retiring on my terms and no more Honeywell BS. Only reminders will be my retirement check on the first of every month.
Communication is coming soon. This communication will have options and instructions what to do.
I was given permission in 2015 to move out of AZ and WFH fulltime. This was an agreement made with my boss and his boss. This worked well until October of last year. The approval form was rejected by boss's boss's boss... it never got to HR. It seems no one wanted to push Cote. So I pulled the VRIF trigger and got approved, and am now happily retired. Up to that point, I was told to hold on and continue WFH.... which is not insubordination. I do know of several people who were told to either start coming into the office, or quit, or be quit. All chose to quit... no severance.
The other rumor is that severance as we know it will be going away very soon...
So I guess the question is when is HR going to take action against the people that are noncompliant? Anyone know of a date? Not speculation but a date heard from HR.
The company rejected prior written agreements on WFH with employees. The policy was likely put into place during a fit of pique as opposed to a rational decision based process. Companies today require flexibility across time zones and continents, not antiquated "report to the office" rules. There are many valued employees that are now reporting to places where they know no one and don't even work for that business. How is that "collaboration?" The only reason that it has taken 5 months to take action against those employees is because the HR personnel (who are quitting in droves, by the way) had to also deal with RIFs, furloughs and other policy changes during that period. If "leadership" believes that this is a progressive move forward, then I suggest they check their attrition rates. There has been a loss of key personnel throughout the organization, and it will continue. The people who are staying either can't find other jobs, or feel "stuck" due to personal circumstances, and their morale and attitudes have changed. Ignoring reality is simply another set up for failure. I've heard our new "CEO-in-waiting" will not change this policy, but he needs to take a look at the damage that has been caused in the past 16 months and decide whether or not he wants to be successful. Good luck to all.