Thread regarding Intel Corp. layoffs

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As vague as this OP is

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DON'T ASK HR ANYTHING!!! lol Many of us have learned that the hard way. They aren't there for you, trust me...

Ask for an informational to discuss the job and see if you're really serious about pursuing. I was actually offered my last job Iduring my informational which surprised me. Then if you think it's worth pursuing, apply for it. They no longer send an email to your manager, or so they claim. IF you get an offer, sit down with your manager and try to work things out, explaining why you were motivated to leave so soon after landing the job. You do NOT want to alienate him/her, or burn your bridges. You want his buy-in if at all possible. Your focal depends on it, especially at this time of year. It's ALL his input.

Good luck.

1kgh & -cvm

1. Depends on who in HR you speak to. How they treat you will depend on your seniority, URM or not, etc . What was route of your hire - School ? Linkedin contact ? Red carpet VIP hire ?

As soon as you go to HR which is never on side of employee - they will protect the manager - could take any action.

1. What type of hire are you ? Asked below.

2. Depends on your circumstances, how you were hired, did they steal you from a company by making you resign to join Intel. Do you have a reason for Intel to be afraid of you fighting back ?

3. How strong of a personality are you ? If they can abuse you, they will with their bulllcrap policies and mind games.

I suggest wait till Focal timeline has passed.

Why do you want to be at awful Intel so badly ?

How long have you been in this job ? WE cant advise without a background of your situation.

Correction to prev post typo

: "but is it safe to still ask HR? Or will HR betray me to my current manager?"

OP here. Yeah if i do find out i def update, thanks for keeping this thread relatively troll-free. Btw, as i understand it i should never discuss this with current manager, but is it to ask HR to see what the current policy is? Or will HR actually betray me to my current manager?

I don't think there's an actual rule... I think it's a guideline and can be broken, depending on the circumstances. I think that's why there are so many differing opinions as our experiences are all different.

I've always heard everyone talk about '1 yr in job before moving on'. Maybe things have changed. They don't always tell us when they make some changes. I've stumbled across a few things that were taken away/changed that were never mentioned by anyone,

Why don't you update us when you have the actual answer @OP? ;)

OP here again.

Hrm...so even in this discussion, people are saying the mandatory wait period is anywhere from 1 year, to 6 months, to non-existent. X_X.

Thanks for the input everyone, but im still a bit confused haha.

Well, OP.... I think it's up to you to tell us who is right and who is wrong once you test that theory for us (is there a time limit or not). Inquiring minds want to know. :)

-cvm

@1nme i was responding to comment/advice given to OP previously, down below. It is you not in the know that should refrain from giving wrong advice.

I was new hire that attempted job change in my first year, am familiar with latest HR initiatives - I think I know better than you. Move along ...

ANOTHER EXAMPLE of Intel management flawed logic:

We will save money on hiring a replacement by getting a different organization to pay for them

BUT

We will waste money giving a ERP package to a person that made an announcement to resign and leave Intel 5 months in advance of layoff.

@1nme there is no mandatory time to stay in a job.

Especially if you are experienced URM hire Intel wants to retain -but- happened to land in a mismatched job. There are too many r3j3ct lame deadwood Intel managers hiring people blindly without even understanding advanced skills an experienced person maybe bringing in.

Most Intel vacancies are for jobs no one wants to do or in team no one wants to be in. Internals know where not to go - unfortunately new hires do not.

Most people prefer to stay in a job for A YEAR is a different matter.

6 months Probation on the job has been abolished and is no longer in use at Intel.

Holt was pretty good at locking down internal transfers in TMG whenever and however he felt like it. They also lock things down during headcount actions to keep the worms from wiggling away. OP could have been told he's stuck where he is for any number of reasons.

Tell your manager of your intention to leave them at your own risk. HONOR SYSTEM and ETHICS do not exist at Intel.

Once manager gets to know, they will do everything in their power and every way possible to jeopardize your future at Intel. In my case, the midget Oregon manager rewarded my honesty with an IR which made no sense.

Intel policy is - an employee with IR/ CAP can not transfer within Intel until conditions of IR are met. Or leave Intel.

I had to go through an ODI which I won - to get it removed. That worthless redneck racist dwarf round p!g of a manager continues to exist at Intel with his 98% all white team.

I don't believe this is a true statement: You don't need ok from your manager to leave and move into a new team. @1pbj.

OP is asking mandatory time in job before moving on. You're answering whether or not you need his permission first. Intel changed the tool so that emails no longer went to your manager when you applied online. They did ask that you do the honor system and tell your manager before applying. Most of us got around that by asking for an "informational interview" to gauge interest before officially applying and triggering that email (that's now no longer generated).

So, I still believe it's 1 yr as I said, with the ability to transfer out earlier with your managers approval.

-cvm

You don't need ok from your manager to leave and move into a new team.

Thats why you don't want yo inform your manager until it's time for you to go. Manager can not stop you. Decision is between you and your prospective manager.

OP what type of new hire are you ..

Junior URM or Senior Hire URM or non-URM ?

There may be a Intel HR program to help you move.

LOL @afz ...

what do you expect from a two-faced cunning devious person who decided and declared to management about leaving Intel many months before layoff announcement - ends up getting a ERP package from that same disliked manager.

Tip: Announce that you are leaving Intel with 5 months advance notice. That way you can get just be unproductive for 5 months before departure fooling the manager with lies about pretending to train your replacement or finishing up your work.

@pql also happens to be kiddie fidler

Don't fall into trap - when person interviewing answers your question about your future manager with:

... Everyone else thinks he is an ar$$$ but i think he is alright

There are most likely good reasons why previous person left or is leaving the team.

I thought I was straight until I was 18. Now I am g-- and have switched teams. So, to answer your question, about 16-18 years.

@zkw Yes you can change (there is no good place at Intel to be) if you are able to get another job which could be difficult because a hiring manager may be hesitent to hire someone wanting to change job so fast.

After a year or close to a year - you have excuse that now you are ready to try something different.

Don't be honest about your current manager being a b4st4rd or a b1tch though. Or about how you maybe getting abused or unreasonable work demands placed on you. Stay positive. They don't like to hear truth ( being pretencious and fakery is norm) although everyone within Intel already realize Intel is backward shiiitty place.

@zkw thanks that was very informative. Do you mean new-hires can change roles even if before 6 months / 1 year?

Time (Dec - Feb) before Focal performance review is not the time to transfer within Intel. Unless you are ok with being laid off due to bad focal caused by job change.

@wmx you are good at choking as a long staying low grade id!ot ...that you can not comprehend perks senior grades are being brought into Intel with and retained with.

You can transfer internally at any time. As long as you have job to move into. Many new hires have been hired by clueless managers and to retain you, Intel would not want you to stay in a mismatched job.

Applying to internal jobs will not send a notification to your manager.

Quietly keep a look out and consider opportunities (though each org within Intel is a mess, best is to leave Intel).

Don't discuss with anyone ( Intel colleagues are backstabbers and can not be trusted) and especially not your manager even if you are having a career development discussion.

@neu lol go choke on something

@rbl Not all new hires can leave Intel with a Employment Agreement to serve minimum time or there is financial penalty.

You can transfer to a new company at any time you know.

When I was a new hire (2000) I was able to transfer out after my 6 months probation ended. However, there was some weird sh_t going on there I won't mention so maybe they allowed it only to get me the heck out (manager was the issue, not me).

-cvm

I've always heard a year. However, I've also heard from multiple you can go sooner IF your manager is OK with the transfer. Also, the rule didn't apply to me when I was in a new job but that was because I didn't post for the job, I was rebalanced/reorged into it.

but, like @lkc said... you're only going to jeopardize your focal and at this time at Intel.... that's pretty close to a death sentence.

Good luck.

OP here:

Could more people chime in on this? And is the mandatory wait period the same for both new hires & post-transfers?

Also, please try not to troll this thread, im really interested in knowing the actual answer, thanks!~

1 year post transfer

I'm not sure there's a strict rule about this. Could be 1 year. I would recommend staying at least for the year or until the next focal, otherwise your focal results could be in jeopardy, and that pretty much guarantees an ISP in this day and age.