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Rumors About November 2016 Resource Action

Rumor has another round of RA in November, and then a re-organization and RA in January. Focus is likely to be on areas like world-wide technical sales, among other areas, and finally getting around to culling the managers, who are now managing fewer people, and reducing layers of management, which IBM has been criticized as having too many of.

There is also rumor that the 3-month 'zombie' period may go out the window, being cut to one month in the November RA to get people out the door before they qualify for the 401k match. Between RAs, other games will be played like 'relocate or lose your job'.

Other rumors are that IBM may take the Future Health Account money away, allowing them to recoup millions. Now that managers are getting cut, as in the last RA, they are beginning to speak more freely. Internally, there is a great deal of strife as this stress takes its toll on everyone. Sales people fighting with product management teams because they can't get the features that their customers want, and hence can't sell.

Sales and tech sales fighting with development teams because the products are so buggy they can't even be demo'd without embarrassments. Support under heavy stress and under the gun because of many bad production outages, such as the Australian census and blown payroll projects in Queensland and Ontario, although very few are made public since the companies affected don't want their customers to know the systems they use are unreliable and unsecure.

Executives are selling stock and bailing out. Ex-IBMers who are now at customers are poaching the remaining talent that IBM has, the ones they didn't want to RA, and they are leaving for greener pastures. It takes a long time for a tall tower to fall, as it leans more and more and eventually loses to gravity and its own weight. This is what it looks like when a dinosaur dies.

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Looks like the 401K match part is true (http://wraltechwire.com/ibm-layoffs-/15976338/).

"IBMers are lighting up a Facebook page with reports across the country about a new round of layoffs. IBM's campus in RTP is taking a hit. It's the third cut in jobs so far this year. To add insult to billfold pain, the IBMers have been told their last day at work will be in November, which means they miss out on IBM's 401K contribution this year. IBM confirms that layoffs are underway...."

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Post ID: @fmiw+JuTn221

Most of this is believable...I got laid off in July, gone in September. I still talk to some of my colleagues (tech sales and sales). Morale is crap and the information on product features and quality is spot on...that's actually been going on for the past year or two but has gotten really bad this year. I've heard that more layoffs are coming but nothing conclusive.

The only rumor I'd doubt is the one about the Future Health Account. That was put in place after the 1999 pension fiasco and it's part of the tacit agreement between IBM and the US Government. If that gets whacked there will be a very public class-action age discrimination lawsuit. Even though your severance papers with IBM expressly give up that right my lawyer said that this part was largely unenforceable (it's more nuanced than that but net is it would years of bad PR and legal expenses).

I'd bet on the accelerated layoff period to get rid of the 401K match though. IBM execs are that greedy and unlike the FHA there's no age discrimination to this action...everybody that gets RA'd gets screwed regardless of tenure.

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Post ID: @duiw+JuTn221

As someone who was just RA'd with an end date being just days before the 401k match... I can't describe how pissed I am that this company pays millions to execs, and abuses the front line workers like they do. Its so obvious that IBM's timing on this round is to screw us out of money they owe us.

I'm in tech sales and let me tell you the morale is horrible with my colleague, especially since the big industry reorg.

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Post ID: @1qdr+JuTn221

A very nicely written list of rumors. Get back to us when you know something new.

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